High-speed gravy train approved in Assembly and Senate

July 6, 2012

By Katy Grimes

UPDATE: 4:45 p.m.

SACRAMENTO — The Senate barely eked out passage of the high-speed rail bill, after a very close vote, 21-16. The vote approves the sale of $4.7 billion in bonds to begin building the Fresno to Bakersfield segment of high-speed rail.

Ongoing lobbying of the wavering Senate Democrats continued even as floor speeches were taking place. The buzz was that stern phone calls were made, including calls from U.S. Rep. Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco.

Sen. Gloria Negrete McLeod, D-Chino, was the decisive vote, after several attempts to reach 21 “yes” votes.

Democrats talks incessantly about all of the jobs they think will be created, while Republicans tried to explain the false economy, massive debt, and house of cards a train-to-nowhere will actually create.

More details to come…

ORIGINAL STORY:

The California Assembly passed the high-speed rail bill on Thursday, after hours of debate. It was clear from the outset that the facts of the multi-billion dollar boondoggle weren’t going to prevent Democrats from supporting SB 1029.

The bill contained language to release $4.6 billion in voter-approved state bonds, originally from Proposition 1A, to start construction of a high-speed rail system in the Central Valley.

The bill still needs approval of the Senate, which is expected to vote Friday.

And this was all done after canceling a scheduled three-hour informational hearing on high-speed rail.

Assemblyman Curt Hagman, R-Chino Hills, offered an amendment which would have placed High-Speed Rail back on the ballot for voters to approve, since the spending of the project has grown exponentially larger than what voters originally approved in 2008.

“High schools, not high-speed rail,” Hagman said. Hagman proposed placing high-speed rail  back on the ballot before voters, and said education should come first.

Hagman said that Californians are constantly told by Governor Brown and the Democrats that the only way to save public education is through higher taxes. And he reminded colleagues that Assembly Republicans have laid out a balanced budget plan, which fully funded education.

“Instead the governor and majority party uses the fear of draconian cuts to public education in hopes of getting voters to pass higher taxes so they can fund their pet projects,” Hagman said. “It is ironic that the Democrats and Governor Brown are strong proponents of anti-bullying measures, yet at the same time try to bully California voters into accepting unneeded higher taxes.”

In a press release, Hagman stated, “At the same time that the Democrats are holding our children’s futures, teachers, and entire public education system hostage, they want to go forward with the costly California High Speed Rail Project. In addition to the billions of dollars it would take to construct the system, it is projected that high speed rail would cost Californians between $330 million and $5 billion annually out of the general fund.  This money should be used to fund our deteriorating public education system instead of being directed toward a boondoggle.”

“High speed rail was sold to the voters as an efficient and timely solution to the state’s transportation and economic needs. In reality, the project has become nothing more than a fiscal nightmare, which comes at the expense of our children and education system,” Hagman said.

“We need to represent our constituents, not the High Speed Rail bureaucracy, not Governor Brown, and not President Obama’s political needs for this project.” said Assemblyman Hagman, “Californian have spoken and it is time that the Democrats pay attention to their message: put high speed rail back to the voters.”

But the Assembly voted to kill his ballot proposal 51-25.

And then the drama really began.

High-speed into bankruptcy

The arguments for and against High-Speed Rail were as diametrically opposed as the two political parties.

“High-speed rail in my district represents hope for the future… High-speed rail represents the opportunity for a good paying job,” said Assemblyman Henry Perea, D-Fresno.

“We’re spending money we don’t have,” said Assemblyman David Valadao, R-Hanford.

“How dare we consider this bond,” Assemblyman Jim Nielsen, R-Gerber, said. “Where are the private sector investors? I am almost embarrassed to be part of this Legislature. How dare we abdicate legislative fiscal authority.”

“This is flat-out nuts!” Assemblyman Tim Donnelly, R-Hesperia, said. “It’s a train we don’t need, with money we don’t have. We are taking people’s homes and businesses to do it. People all over the world are laughing at California.”

“We can’t take care of essential services, and are facing $6 billion in trigger cuts to education,” Donnelly contrinued. “This is a high-speed train robbery from our children, and our children’s children.”

“This is only a bond,” Assemblywoman Nancy Skinner, D-Berkeley, said. Uh huh. And “free money” really exists.

Big lie

The lie of the day goes to Assemblyman Roger Dickinson, D-Sacramento, for his fairytale depiction of Sacramento’s light rail train system. Dickinson said that bringing light rail to Sacramento was a “citizen-led movement,” popular with Sacramento residents.

This claim is a load of horse apples. Light rail was forced on Sacramento by insecure, greedy local politicians who, just like the Legislature, wanted to be the first to have light rail trains running through the city.

Sacramento already had a profitable and highly popular bus system. The buses actually took people exactly where they needed to go. But the addition of light rail trains interrupted that successful system, entirely changed many of the bus routes to feed trains, instead of taking people directly to their destinations. And, Regional Transit has never dug out from the massive debt the system continues to add to.

“As we added light rail ridership, it went from being unaffordable to ‘when will it get to my neighborhood,’ Dickinson said.”

What Dickinson left out is that Sacramento’s light rail is 80 percent subsidized, and the city gives tickets to welfare recipients. Government employees receive subsidized bus and train passes, and the trains are often empty.

A regular, full price monthly pass on Light Rail costs $100. State employees receive a $35 pass.

When the system was put in, tracks were laid through some of Sacramento’s busiest intersections, causing huge traffic jams, and traffic backups during rush hour. This was deliberate. Several years ago, when I was writing a story for the Sacramento Union about Sacramento Regional Transit, a city planner admitted to me off the record, that they have been trying to force people out of their cars, onto light rail, by making traffic conditions so intolerable.

The direct-to-the-airport “Green line” has advertisements painted over its windows, in a seemingly clever public relations attempt to prevent anyone from seeing how empty it usually is.

The 22 reviews of Sacramento Regional Transit on yelp would be hilarious if they weren’t so horrible. Most reviewers complained about the cost of $6 a day to ride anywhere, the habitually late buses,  angry, nasty bus and light rail operators, safety and security issues, filth, overcrowding on buses, worthless security guards, no late night operation, train breakdowns, and buses full of “people you only see in your nightmares.”

Adding to the lie of the day…

Adding to Dickinson’s big lie, the Sacramento Bee editorial today proved just how clueless they are when it comes to the state’s history, as well as any responsible fiscal policies.

“California lawmakers shouldn’t be cowed by the polls or consumed by parochialism when it comes to financing high-speed rail,” the editorial stated. “Yes, it’s true that public support for high-speed rail has diminished since voters approved bond funding in 2008.”

“Yet California would never have reached its infrastructure glory days of the 1960s if politicians were as cowardly as some seem now,” the Editorial Board concluded. “Excuse us, but has anyone examined how the state built the freeways of Southern California, the bridges of the Bay Area or universities such as California State University, Long Beach? All involved debt and investments by taxpayers, and none was built in a day.”

What the brain trust at the Bee failed to mention is that much of the state’s infrastructure was built out of great need. The freeways were built to transport goods and people. You can’t have a movement of people until there is a way to provide transportation of goods and services.

Roads, highways, trains, planes and ships, were built to transport goods. People followed. But high-speed rail is just a single-purpose people mover. And it’s not out of any legitimate need; high-speed rail sounds cool, so naturally California politicians want to be the first in the West to have it.

“Nearly everyone who has studied high-speed rail says it makes sense to build the first segment in a flat, unobstructed place where trains can reach the highest speeds and the system can be tested and refined,” the Editorial stated.

This is another big lie. Nearly everyone who has studied high-speed rail says building the first segment in the Central Valley is a train-to-nowhere, and merely a way to grab the $3.3 billion from the federal government, and spend the money on union jobs and expensive consultants.

“Trains and bikes are not 21st century transportation,” Assemblywoman Diane Harkey, R-Dana Point, said. “If any of you had read any of the reports by the legislative counsel, you’d see that high-speed rail will suck money from your transportation budgets.”

“We are giving our authorization for $8 billion to tear up prime agricultural land for tracks,” Harkey said. “You are running through neighborhoods for 130 miles of track — not trains.”

Harkey also pointed out that all of the state’s infrastructure was build with revenue bonds, and not General Obligation bonds.

A city or the state  has the option of raising tax rates or levying new taxes in order to meet its obligation to bondholders. This is one sneaky way to raise taxes to pay for High-Speed Rail.

GO bonds also impact the credit of a municipality; it is doubtful if California has much credit left.

The biggest lie

Proponents of California High-Speed Rail have argued that it is cheaper to put in the high-speed train system, than to make much-needed repairs to existing freeways, or to beef up the state’s freeway system.

Assemblywoman Cathleen Galgiani, D-Stockton, the mother of all of the high-speed rail bills, said it would take 12 lanes of highway to do what high-speed rail could do.

And she claimed that the state will benefit from all of the tax revenue generated by “putting people back to work.”

High-speed rail is a case of spending $10 to make $1, and proof that it is not only a giant lie, Democrats are perpetuating this very expensive lie, and don’t appear to care who knows.

The bill was passed on a party line, 52-29. Take a look at the vote and see how your elected representative voted.

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  1. Rex The Wonder Dog!
    Rex The Wonder Dog! 6 July, 2012, 12:53

    If the High Speed Stain gets past the senate the Dems are DOA-I GUARANTEE IT!

    If I am correct my prediction rate will go up and be 11-0, 10-0 after the Clown sales tax gets creamed at the next election, DOA baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  2. Donkey
    Donkey 6 July, 2012, 13:06

    Demonrats are worse than ill-mannered children and very stupid. 🙂

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  3. Rex The Wonder Dog!
    Rex The Wonder Dog! 6 July, 2012, 13:16

    “High-speed rail in my district represents hope for the future… High-speed rail represents the opportunity for a good paying job,” said Assemblyman Henry Perea, D-Fresno.

    Good paying jobs that will pay the union employees $50K per job and cost tax payers $1 million per job, no thanks, if they want “good paying” jobs they can go out and start a business and makethe jobs themselves, and stop leeching off the poor and middle class with borrowed money to finance million unskilled/semi-skilled construction jobs.

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  4. Cyndi
    Cyndi 6 July, 2012, 13:18

    Some of us knew this was a way for politicians in Sacramento to steal more money from CA. taxpayers to feed the pet projects and pay back those who donate to their campaigns. That seems to be how most politicians work these days. It’s not what is best for the state or their constituents, it’s “all about me and what I can get from you.” I’m to the point that term limits are a must and get these career politicians out of office. And there is also no jumping from one government position to another, term after term. When your time is up, you pack up and go back to where you lived before and to the career you left “to serve the people.” Other countries are laughing at how these idiots are running our state and the whole country into the abyss and can’t wait to see us fall from a superpower country we have been for decades. And California is leading the way to this abyss!

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  5. Ted
    Ted 6 July, 2012, 14:42

    I think hi speed rail is a good idea– just not now— and for sure we wouldn’t want to stimulate the economy with jobs until we get a rep. in the White House.

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  6. Rex The Wonder Dog!
    Rex The Wonder Dog! 6 July, 2012, 17:13

    CYNDI-YOU ARE SO RIGHT, SO ON THE MONEY.

    You are a very intelligent woman.

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  7. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 6 July, 2012, 17:32

    Sales income tax and rail are DOA. Voters somehow will stop these nightmares. They are mad in Sacramento…..utterly without fiscal responsibilty.

    The Wonder Dog is rough around the toe nails but he called it!

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  8. Rex The Wonder Dog!
    Rex The Wonder Dog! 6 July, 2012, 18:44

    Senate passed the scam…un-friggen-believable

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  9. Donkey
    Donkey 6 July, 2012, 19:03

    Rex, do you ever get the feeling that Sacremento is an adult version of “Lord of the Flies?”

    What a bunch of maladroit fools, fumbling with a loaded gun, having no idea that it is loaded. 🙂

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  10. Rex The Wonder Dog!
    Rex The Wonder Dog! 6 July, 2012, 19:48

    I get the feeling Clowns tax hikes are now going to be destroyed by a 70%-25% margin,that is what the margin was in San Jose, where they rolled back pensions for CURRENT employees.

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  11. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 6 July, 2012, 20:00

    LOL put that last post in the famous Poodle prediction file !!!

    He is 0 for 8 right now !!!!

    9?????? Hmmmmmm

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  12. Brent
    Brent 6 July, 2012, 21:35

    I wonder how the HSR is going to haul all of the products through out this state? Seems there is NO money to repair our Hwy’s but Ca will build a HSR to keep from spending monies on it’s already delapalated highway system.

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  13. Brent
    Brent 6 July, 2012, 21:45

    Yes, MoomBeams Great Father did our stare great justice by pushing Ca water systems forward as one Senator stated, but now they are inadequate not just for Ag needs and our state isn’t doing anything about improving the or adding new. It takes more water for a metropolis than it does for Ag, so where is the water going to come from to sustain all of their projected growth? Think about that? I live in the middle of it all…

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  14. STEVE SCOFIELD
    STEVE SCOFIELD 6 July, 2012, 21:53

    with the passage of the largest taxpayer boondoggle and fraud in the history of the United States the democrats in sacramento have doomed generations not born yet and every state taxpayer presently alive in the state to tax slavery ……..nothing more …..nothing yes …….we are all now tax slaves for the california union whoremasters who control the state…..top to bottom

    i urge every business and taxpayer that has the ability to leave this state as quickly as possible ………it’s gonna go down fast now ………..soon nothing but the takers left ……..no earners …….uneducated children ……thieves and criminals in control ………….shut oud the light………and go

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  15. Kevin Dayton, Labor Issues Solutions
    Kevin Dayton, Labor Issues Solutions 6 July, 2012, 22:36

    Great article. You better believe this is about union jobs.

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  16. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 7 July, 2012, 00:23

    I am 9-0…. 10-0 after the sales tax fails…..and 11-0 after the HSR gets stopped by the courts

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  17. Cyndi
    Cyndi 7 July, 2012, 01:38

    Thank You REX for the complement. Some people around here that I talk to think I’m out of my mind. It is mind boggling to me of how many people still can’t see what is going on in front of their noses. It seems to me that if you use a little common sense, you can see that this is a scam…just like the global warming and cap and trade boondoggle. Take the money from the middle class and poor to give to the rich politicians and their unions that keep them in office (by any means possible..i.e. steal the votes). And even if it does “create jobs,” they are only temporary ones and then back to the unemployment lines they go. Please, stop this insane train, I want off! Rex, I’d love to chat with you on my theory about the votes in this state. And did you say the senate now passed this, too? OH GEE WHIZ we are dooommmed.

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  18. Rex The Wonder Dog!
    Rex The Wonder Dog! 7 July, 2012, 03:35

    The more you write Cyndi the more I like you! Yes, the HSR is a sham, as is cap n trade, big scams. Temporary $50K jobs that end up costing taxpayers $1 million………………..Don’t worry, Jerry’s sales/pension tax just got the death blow dealt to it-it was facing an uphill battle BEFORE the HSR scam, now it is all over, just read the comments in the papers-people are PISSED OFF!

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  19. Cyndi
    Cyndi 7 July, 2012, 05:14

    Rex, oh well if the people are pissed off. CA. citizens are tired of paying the bills for others to do nothing but complain they need more of our money. I know I am tired of it! I think the state employees unions have got Sacramento by the you-know-whats and control the decisions they make. Who in their right mind wants to drive to a HSR station to get across town or to the next town? Then have to find a ride to their destination, when you can get in your car, drive there in half the time it would if you rode the HSR? And where do I find these comments that people are leaving? I will have to go check them out? One of my biggest concerns right now is the implementation of obamacare on me and my family. Cause the idiots is Sacramento aren’t going to protect us from the taxes that mandate is going to enforce upon us all. And in the long run, that takes more of the money away from the state, cause if they don’t create the exchanges, federal gets to come in and take over our health care here, too. That is my understanding of a section in the law. I might be mistaken, it has been awhile since I read it. Just Saying…. have great day Rex.

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  20. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 7 July, 2012, 07:05

    Excitement among the producers…

    Now take your valium, bend over, wallet extraction in progress and for Cyndi your purse…hand it over….Honorable Perez has made your day!

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  21. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 7 July, 2012, 07:19

    Your destined to fund THE GOLDEN ZEPHER….all aboard producers….or

    PACK N SHIP!

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  22. RT
    RT 7 July, 2012, 07:58

    The sad fact that we all need to face up to is that the takers and their allies now outnumber the makers. We have lost.

    We have lost California, and if we do not start working together to stop it, we will more than likely will lose the nation in November.

    This train is just a symbol of how far off track we are (no pun intended).

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  23. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 7 July, 2012, 09:37

    RT— If we elect Gov. Romney in November we will revert back to the failed Pres Bush policies that caused our current mess. 29 months of job growth totaling more than the entire Bush presidency—— 4 more years !

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  24. Edward Rasen
    Edward Rasen 7 July, 2012, 10:22

    Nancy Pelosi made threatening telephone calls to Democratic State Assembly members. Union leaders strong-armed Democratic State Assembly members. Well, I know what Vladimir Putin can do after retiring as President of Russia. The Democratic Party is really no different than the former Communist Party that ruled the USSR and led it into bankruptcy. Free jobs for everyone was their motto. It sounds like the Democrats in California.

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  25. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 7 July, 2012, 10:41

    One thing is absolutey going to happen, the failure of Clowns TAX hikes November 6. They were going to be a HARD selll before this fraud, now it is an impossible sell-they are 100% DOA, I guarantee it.

    You heard it here first folks, from Rex TWD 🙂

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  26. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 7 July, 2012, 13:14

    THE GOLDEN ZEPHYR……dream of riding to Palmdale for dinner at Sizzler and going to the local bars for line dancing!

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  27. Hondo
    Hondo 7 July, 2012, 17:02

    You wanna see what Kalifornia is gonna look like in another dozen years. Go to scotthocking.com/zone. His site documents the end result of corrupt democratic party policies, Detroit. The pictures at his site are real and apocolyptic. They have jarred me to my bones. Noone will talk about Detroit anymore. But it’s coming to Kalifornia soon.
    Hondo……

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  28. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 7 July, 2012, 19:35

    Well all— If the Poodle is correct in his prediction about the temp tax hike— he will be 1 for 10 in his famous predictions….lol— I enjoy this a great deal.

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  29. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 7 July, 2012, 21:38

    11-0 BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  30. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 7 July, 2012, 22:41

    Poodle– What about the 3 lawsuit predictions for the OCSO case all the way to the denial by the Cal Supremes?? You like to forget those huh?

    LOL this is just too easy !

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  31. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 7 July, 2012, 22:55

    I never made any predictions in THREE lawsuits.

    I commented on Moorlachs pension lawsuit against OCSD-that is ONE lawsuit you progressive GED surrender monkey 🙂

    Now, getting back to the matter at hand, Clown’s pension sales tax is DOA BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I have $100 backing that up-bring it on Steals if you got the beach balls for it!!!!!!

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  32. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 7 July, 2012, 23:16

    Teddy is always right!

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  33. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 8 July, 2012, 06:59

    LOL— Poodle u have the memory of a child!

    There were 3 phases– the trial– you predicted a win….you lost.

    The appeals court…you predicted a win…you lost.

    And the Supreme Court…you predicted a win…you lost.

    Each time you trumpeted for months beforehand!

    LOL

    0 for 9 so far little buddy !!!!

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  34. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 8 July, 2012, 09:18

    See….Teddy is always right!!!

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  35. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 8 July, 2012, 10:52

    Poodle– What about the 3 lawsuit predictions

    Three LAWSUITS????/… you did say “LAWSUITS” didn’t you Steals ????????????

    There were 3 phases– the trial– you predicted a win….you lost.”

    OOOOh wait, now it is three “PHASES”…LOL….always trying to spin the facts like the chump you are….man, I need to start paying you rent for all the space I occuy in your GED brain 🙂

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  36. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 8 July, 2012, 11:40

    What is a chump?

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  37. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 8 July, 2012, 13:58

    You and Teddy 😉

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  38. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 8 July, 2012, 17:39

    Forgot the topic due to incessant bashing, cruel name calling and sophmoric insults!

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  39. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 8 July, 2012, 17:42

    Wow Poodle—I guess you don’t even know what happened! LOL—–

    anyway— you predicted 3 big wins– lol you lost 3 times !!!

    0 for 9

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  40. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 8 July, 2012, 18:05

    From “Poodle– What about the 3 lawsuit predictions” to “anyway— you predicted 3 big wins”

    lol….where do I send my rent payment for camping out in your troll GED mind 🙂

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  41. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 8 July, 2012, 18:07

    Ulysses Uhaul says:
    July 8, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    Ted Steele, The Decider says:
    July 8, 2012 at 5:42 pm
    =====

    Teddy, beter watch it, your gimmick account comments are being posted too close to each other-pretty soon your gimmick account may be arouse suspecion;)

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  42. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 8 July, 2012, 18:26

    Insanity….how much parnoid behavior can posters bear…..believe Teddy did affect…..pity.

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  43. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 8 July, 2012, 21:25

    Mr. Pack and ship—- even though you are clearly me and my front account…..I salute you Sir or Madam.

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  44. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 8 July, 2012, 22:50

    Teddy walk your poodle more this week. Those dog whisper types do lots of exercise to roughie poodles!

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  45. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 8 July, 2012, 23:15

    Insanity….how much parnoid behavior can posters bear

    BEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!…….. as in TEDDY “BEAR”…….Bwhahahahahhahhah… that comment was unBEARable 🙂

    LOL…Teddy is having a conversation with his gimmick account 😉

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  46. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 9 July, 2012, 07:37

    Thanks Mr.U Haul—- so nice to talk to myself!

    Mr. 0 for 9 thinks he’s on to “us”……

    LOL

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  47. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 9 July, 2012, 08:00

    Tdddy. Not many like poodles. Never saw one that didn’t need a bath. Got bad breath too. Guess those teeth stains,the blame. They bark and bark….annoying.

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  48. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 9 July, 2012, 10:36

    Ted Steele, The Decider says:
    July 9, 2012 at 7:37 am
    Ulysses Uhaul says:
    July 9, 2012 at 8:00 am

    Ted, how many times do I have to tell ya- you cannot post from your sock puppet account so close in time to your Teddy Steals account-it shoots down your gimmick account credibility 😉

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  49. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 9 July, 2012, 16:21

    poor Poodle thinks he has me figured out!!

    LOL

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  50. Cyndi
    Cyndi 9 July, 2012, 19:41

    HEY REX, I lost this page and couldn’t find it until now. So what has gone on over the weekend that I may have missed? I see you’re in an intelligent war of words with a few on here. Don’t worry, I got your back, Sir. Hope you are having a great Monday evening. Cyndi

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  51. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 10 July, 2012, 01:23

    HEY REX, I lost this page and couldn’t find it until now. So what has gone on over the weekend that I may have missed? I see you’re in an intelligent war of words with a few on here. Don’t worry, I got your back, Sir. Hope you are having a great Monday evening. Cyndi

    Why thank you Ms Cyndi!!! But it is not a fair war of wits when I am fighting an unarmed opponent, like multiple sock puppet accounts to bolster his sad, sorry and pathetic claims 🙂

    But remember this, Clowns sales/pension tax is going to fail by a 63-35 margin, or about 2-1 in shutting them taxes down, just like we did with Arnold’s scam tax initiatives 1a-1g two years ago!!!!!!!!

    BAM-Teddy Steals is out for the count (you can count to 10 can’t you teddy 😉 )

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