Gov. Brown campaigns for rich public-employee unions

Commentary

Oct. 31, 2012

By Mark Cabaniss

If you have the stomach, listen to Jesuit seminary dropout (1957)  Gov. Jerry Brown out on the campaign trail recently, selling his newest tax hike, Proposition 30:  “I like to quote from St. Luke: ‘From those who have been given, much will be asked.’”

To Brown and others of his ilk, it is always “the other” who has been given and from whom much should be asked.  People like him don’t own mirrors, or at least, don’t know how to use them.

He was talking to a teachers union. But since California teachers are the highest paid teachers in the nation, shouldn’t anything be asked back of them? Like maybe making it easier to fire teachers who have been accused of acts of perversion against schoolchildren? This past summer, the Democrats killed a bill in the legislature that would have done just that.

Maybe the governor should sit down with his Bible and find some scripture where it says we are supposed to protect the little children from those who would abuse them; I seem to remember something like that.  Then you could quote that same scripture at a press conference announcing your effort to get rid of child molesters in the schools.

How about California prison guards, among the highest paid in the nation. Should they be asked to give up anything, such as the “right” to commit crimes like smuggling in and selling drugs and cell phones to prisoners?  His Democratic pals in the Legislature gutted a bill that would have made such smuggling felonious, keeping such crimes mere misdemeanors instead, arguing that it would be “wrong” to be too hard on the li’l fellers just because they had made a mistake like commit a crime or something.  Er, the guards, not the prisoners.

Pension hogs

Or how about some of these pension hogs we read about, people like Randy Adams, former police chief of the city of Bell.  Remember him?  At a hearing for all the other former Bell officials who had been charged, the judge herself asked the befuddled prosecutor why Adams wasn’t one of the defendants.  Randy Adams is on the notorious CalPERS top ten list of highest paid pensioners in the state, currently receiving a pension of $265,437.48 per year.

Most people would say that he has been given a lot. Do you think he should give anything back, like some of the loot?  No?  Can’t reform pensions?  No matter what?  Never?

Here’s the governor in a non-scripture-quoting mood, talking about his own significance, or lack thereof: “At this stage [of his life], as I see many of my friends dying — I went to the funeral of my best friend a couple of weeks ago — I want to get s*** done.”

Like what?  Building a giant 19th century choo-choo to nowhere, the cost projections for which actually assumed that gasoline would be $40.00 a gallon?  If gasoline doesn’t get to $40.00 a gallon, the choo-choo won’t be cost effective, and shouldn’t be built.  Even worse, it may be built anyway, becoming a huge and ongoing cost for the state, literally taking food from the mouths of babes.

Is that the kind of “stuff” the governor wants to get done?  Snatching food from the mouths of the 99 percent to stuff it into the faces of the 1 percent, his overfed, gluttonous supporters?

No reforms

What a joke.  As long as Brown and his pals insist that child-molesting teachers shouldn’t be fired without the sort of endless due process rights that make it literally impossible to fire them; as long as he and his pals insist that cleaning up the worst abuses of the prison guards should emphatically not be part of cleaning up our ridiculous, absurdly expensive prison system; as long as there are more than 15,000 retired state and local government workers receiving “pensions” of more than $100,000.00 per year, for life, no one should be paying higher taxes, no matter what the fig leaf “purpose” dreamed up by the taxers.

For myself, I think it is wise to be mindfully reticent about trying to co-opt the words of the Bible to use as ammo in partisan political battles.  However, I recognize that some people, people who like to put on a Jesuitical affectation, disagree with me, and indeed, find it necessary to quote from the Bible to put on that very same Jesuitical affectation.

To them, a word of caution:  Before you go quoting the Bible, read it.  Deeply ponder the idea that it might apply to you as well as those you are lecturing.

 

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  1. us citizen
    us citizen 31 October, 2012, 09:56

    screw him, NO on 30 and 38

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  2. r. mclain
    r. mclain 31 October, 2012, 10:14

    No on 30 yes on 32 , get your ducks in order Brown you want to cut something then cut free school for non-citizens and stop the give away programs. Schools first your special projects to make you feel better can come out of your personal funds. How much did you donate to charity last yr ? And that doesnt include yourself.

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  3. Queeg
    Queeg 31 October, 2012, 10:31

    Life will go on doomers….you smell blood in the water outside your single wides….the little people will be crushed under your clod hoppers….are you proud of yourselves….massive budget cuts for the poor, infirmed and the kids…while you suck Old Milwaukee and eat Cheetos watching Fox News.

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  4. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 31 October, 2012, 11:00

    Teddy, the only ones who are going to be crushed will be YOU, when the sky falls on you when Prop 30 is killed Nov 6.

    Deal with it.

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  5. Dyspeptic
    Dyspeptic 31 October, 2012, 11:15

    I had several Jesuit instructors in my 12 years of Catholic school education. They all had visceral contempt for Bible quoters. One of them even referred sneeringly to the cherry picking of self-serving Bible quotes as “Bible bingo”.

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  6. stevefromsacto
    stevefromsacto 31 October, 2012, 11:17

    Rex’s bizarro world: It’s OK for Munger, the Koch Brothers and the Arizona Mafia to dump tens of millions of dollars into the race, but it’s not OK for the governor to fight back.

    Hang in there, Queeg.

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  7. Dyspeptic
    Dyspeptic 31 October, 2012, 11:18

    Poor Jerry, he still has delusions of relevance 🙂

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  8. Dyspeptic
    Dyspeptic 31 October, 2012, 11:29

    @stevefromexcremento,

    Talk about a bizarro world, you make it sound like Governor Clown is some downtrodden, disenfranchised underdog. For Pete’s sake man, he is a complete and willing tool of The Overlords. If you want to root for the real underdog give your support to the downtrodden taxpayer, not the chief clown in the taxfeeder three ring circus.

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  9. David in Irvine
    David in Irvine 31 October, 2012, 11:46

    @Dyspeptic, StevefromSacto is or was a paid union hack, and is not given to realize that opposition to tax increases means we get to keep the money that is already ours, while the guv’s position seems to be that we have a moral obligation to, ahem, share it with the the State and its preferred beneficiaries. Also, at the risk of incurring the wrath of your former teachers, an aphoristic description of the modern “democratic” welfare state is due to Matthew: it strains at a gnat and swallows a camel.

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  10. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 31 October, 2012, 12:50

    The problem is not taxes per se, rather it is the gov troughers gross salary, wages and obscene pensions at super young ages that is the problem. If the troughers had NORMAL compensation, for their skill set (not GEDer’s making$200K per year) we would never have a need for even a 6% sales tax, much less a 10% sales tax, nor a 10% state income tax. These levels are astronomical and the main reason is the over compensation of the troughers.

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  11. stevefromsacto
    stevefromsacto 31 October, 2012, 16:56

    Average pension under $25,000 a year. That’s not even Rex’s latte budget.

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  12. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 31 October, 2012, 18:31

    Average pension under $25,000 a year. That’s not even Rex’s latte budget.
    ==
    The AVERAGE pension for a 30 year employee at CalPERS, retiringtoday, is $69K, that is 250% MORE than what Steve claims.

    The AVERAGE pension for a 30 year employee in Contra Costa County, one of the 20 muni pensions is $86K.

    Aberage pension fro 30 year cop or FF is over $100K.

    ALL indexed for inflation for life.

    Steve, why must I publicly spank you with the facts??? Why do you try to spin the FACTS when I can shoot you, and your lies, down in 2 seconds flat?????

    Steve…….Here is the most recent information, drawn directly from the annual reports of Cal STRS and CalPERS, please rea dteh amounts and hsow me where that $25K average is:

    From the CalSTRS Annual Report, page 135:

    CalSTRS participants who retired during the 12 months ending June 30th, 2010 (the most recent data), earned pensions as follows:
    25-30 years service, average pension $50,772 per year.
    30-35 years service, average pension $67,980 per year.
    35-40 years service, average pension $86,736 per year.

    From the CalPERS Annual Report, page 151:
    CalPERS participants who retired during the 12 months ending December 31st, 2009 (the most recent data), earned pensions as follows:

    25-30 years service, average pension $53,182 per year.

    30+ years service, average pension $66,828 per year.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/48290940/CA-CalPERS-2010-Comprehensive-Annual-Financial-Report

    http://www.calstrs.com/help/forms_publications/printed/CurrentCAFR/cafr_2010.pdf

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  13. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 31 October, 2012, 22:34

    Poodle has a Wooolworth 5 & Dime melmac bowl to eat his grape nuts! No lattes in Randsburg…..sorry…..

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  14. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 1 November, 2012, 08:08

    Rottie loves his “Grape-nuts” 😉

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  15. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 1 November, 2012, 20:55

    Poodle loves the dull normal fake stats…zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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  16. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 1 November, 2012, 21:48

    Yeah teddy, the FACTS you just have no answer to…….5 days lil buddy, get your prozac supply stocked up, you’re gonna need it 🙂

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  17. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 3 November, 2012, 11:53

    Rex is the champion spinner–30-year employees at CalPERS are a small, cherry-picked group among the 500,000+ CalPERS current annuitants. The average CalPERS pension is less than $25,000/yr. Its the entire bottom line that counts–not the bottom line for one cherry-picked group.

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  18. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 3 November, 2012, 17:37

    Rex is the champion spinner–30-year employees at CalPERS are a small, cherry-picked group among the 500,000+ CalPERS current annuitants.

    #1- they are not a “SMALL” group

    #2- they were not “cherry picked”.

    You use apples to apples comparisons, which is what seesaw and the other troughers HATE because then it shows how much fraud they have engaged in.

    You compare employees who have worked the EXACT SAME NUMBER OF YEARS to see the difference in the pensions. What seesaw and Bill Lockyer love to do is compare a 5 year calTURDS pension to a 45 year SS pension and claim the 5 year calTURDS pension is only double the SS pension, yet the SS worker worked 9 times longer……

    Oh my lil seesaw, why do you try to deceive like Teddy does??????? When the facts are so easy to spank you with?????

    Compare the SAME NUMBER OF EMPLOYMENT YEARS seesaw, simple stuff, no more seesaw spin.

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  19. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 3 November, 2012, 20:38

    You aren’t using apples to apples comparison, Rex. You are using apples to oranges. You don’t compare a 5-year public sector retirement with a 45-year SS pension. I worked in the public sector. No one in the public sector retires with only five years, unless they are moving on in their careers to something outside of public service, or if they have to or choose to leave for other reasons. A five-year, public sector pension is going to be less than $1,000/mo–most for a miscellaneous worker are going to be closer to less than $500. The SS benefits are figured on the worker’s highest 35 years of earnings–not 45 years. My spouse gets about $1800/mo in SS and that is much more than any five-year, retired public employee. And, stop accusing me of engaging in fraud! I have never engaged in fraud in my life–and darn lucky to be getting a public sector retirement, to supplement what my spouse gets in SS and a tiny DB carpenter pension, which is less than his supplementary medical insurance premium.

    You seem not to notice, Rex that most public-sector workers are surrounded by private sector spouses, children, etc. The two groups are not islands unto themselves. We should all be concerned about the economy and the State of CA, regardless of where we worked and what sector we came from. I know I am, and I certainly don’t go around accusing others of engaging in fraud!

    The group you were referring to, and which I describe as cherry picked and small, is both of those when you put it beside the total number of retirees receiving benefits.

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  20. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 3 November, 2012, 20:51

    The average retirement amount for all CalPERS members, who retired at the close of the 2010-2011 fiscal year, is $3065/mo. Yes, it is more than SS, if compared with the same number of years worked. The CalPERS system was founded before SS and is under no obligation to operate with the same rules and regulations as SS. One is apples and the other is oranges.

    (I don’t get my previously legal, spousal share of SS, due to my government pension. Such “windfall”, for government workers, was ended during the Carter Administration.)

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  21. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 5 November, 2012, 07:54

    You aren’t using apples to apples comparison, Rex. You are using apples to oranges. You don’t compare a 5-year public sector retirement with a 45-year SS pension.

    That’s RIGHT seesaw, you don’t, but that is EXACTLY what you troughers try to do with you say the “average” CalPERS pension is $25K, because you’re using 5 year employees in the average. And YES, there are PLENTY of 5 year retirees in the tough feeder work force, as that is what it takes to vest. FRAUD- it applies to any trougher who received a RETROACTIVE pension they didn’t work for or earn, ad yes I will keep calling the criminals that because that is fraud.

    If you use the EXACT same # of years worked, 30, 35 whatever the #, the CalTURDS pension is at LEAST 4-5 times more than SS, and at least 5-17 years sooner.

    As for your family, your “family” is living high off the backs of the poor “families” who are stuck paying for that Cadillac lifestyle of the rich and famous.

    Once again, the VERAGE CulTURES and CalSTRS pensions for those with 30 years in AS YOUNG AS AGE 50;

    CalSTRS participants who retired during the 12 months ending June 30th, 2010 (the most recent data), earned pensions as follows:
    25-30 years service, average pension $50,772 per year.
    30-35 years service, average pension $67,980 per year.
    35-40 years service, average pension $86,736 per year.

    From the CalPERS Annual Report, page 151:
    CalPERS participants who retired during the 12 months ending December 31st, 2009 (the most recent data), earned pensions as follows:

    25-30 years service, average pension $53,182 per year.

    30+ years service, average pension $66,828 per year.

    AVERAGE FOR SS= $12K per YEAR at age 67!

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  22. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 5 November, 2012, 08:19

    SS was never meant to be a sole source of retirement income. It was meant to be a supplement, just like the original 401ks were intended to be. That was before the very rich realized that they could do away with the DB pensions and save all the millions at the top for themselves.

    You still insist on comparing apples and oranges–just posting the same, tired figures hour after hour. I dare you to go out and haul in a group of people who retired with five years service–and list all those huge pensions they are getting.

    My family is lower, middle class, getting just enough in retirement funds to pay the bills, thanks to the fact that between my spouse and me, we worked for 90 years. We are not taking one penny from anyone else.

    Just be prepared to keep yourself away from sharp objects on November 7.

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