TX routs CA in education test scores

TX routs CA in education test scores

Every time I write or speak on a radio show favorably about Texas compared with California, I get harsh online comments, emails and phone calls. The usual theme isn’t just that California is a nicer place to live. It’s that Texas is a hellhole compared with just about anywhere — a place that hates unions, poor people, nonwhites and more, and has a culture that celebrates ignorance.

This is supposedly reflected in the priorities of Gov. Rick Perry. A phone message I got expressed disbelief that I praised Texas public schools and called them broadly better than California’s. A male voice said something along the lines of … “Have you seen how little they pay for K-12? It’s obscene.”

Cal-vs-Tex-map-imageThat is not a good argument. In fact, it’s another argument for Texas.

It’s time to bring in Chuck DeVore, Orange County assemblyman turned Austin think tanker. DeVore suggests the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) is a good baseline to compare states. It measures fourth- and eighth-graders in math, reading and science and breaks down the results by the performance of white, Latino and African-American students.

So guess what happened in an analysis of the NAEP results for the eight biggest states? According to what Chuck wrote last year for the San Francisco Chronicle, it’s a rout.

“Looking at the most recent NAEP testing data for fourth and eighth graders in math, reading and science as well as looking at race and ethnicity and considering the eight biggest states, there are 24 categories to measure (e.g., eighth-grade science results for African American students, etc.). The 2009 results showed Texas as having the strongest scores in 11 of 24 categories while California was last in 15 of 24 categories. Further, Texas showed no areas of weakness compared to the national average.”

Texas makes case for Gloria Romero’s CA civil-rights argument

So Texas, the hellhole that pays obscenely little for K-12 education, stomps California — including specifically with the Latino and African-American students who are supposed to be oppressed in a Southern state like Texas as opposed to an enlightened state like California.

Gloria Romero is so right: The biggest civil rights issue in California by far is that the needs of the majority Latino students in our public schools are trumped by the needs of the largely white California Teachers Association and California Federation of Teachers.

In Texas, where teachers unions don’t dominate public education, Latinos do much better. That is not a talking point. As the NAEP scores show, it is the truth.

It should matter in the CA debate over education far more than it does. When you look at California’s actual deeds — not its rhetoric — our state government certainly celebrates ignorance far more than Texas.



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  1. Ted O'Steele, CEO
    Ted O'Steele, CEO 13 May, 2014, 06:53

    Isn’t Rick Perry the guy who used to frolic all up in the Niggerhead Ranch ™ ?

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    • Donkey
      Donkey 13 May, 2014, 09:37

      TCS, you are a racist of the worst kind, blinded by your hatred and greed no amount of facts open your bigoted mind. This latest quip ties in nicely with your KKK boosts. 🙂

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  2. Queeg
    Queeg 13 May, 2014, 07:23

    A great travel article providing me with job security at Ulysses’ rental yard…..the season is upon us and may be going to seven day work schedule….

    We have great maps of West Virginia and swamps in northern North Carolina for doomer settlers.

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    • Ted Steele, Manager
      Ted Steele, Manager 13 May, 2014, 09:23

      “Doomer Settlers” ™

      LMAO— OK— This was THE post of the week! Doomer Settler is now a significant part of the CWD lexicon!!!!!

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      • Donkey
        Donkey 13 May, 2014, 09:38

        The only “Doomers” I know are the Al gorites worshiping their weather god in the hope of being saved by that fat ignorant fool. 🙂

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        • Ted Steele, Manager
          Ted Steele, Manager 13 May, 2014, 11:02

          Duncey — You’re a Doomer little buddy. You live in Adelanto an can’t get enough AM radio– embrace it– it’s ok!

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          • Donkey
            Donkey 14 May, 2014, 09:08

            Sorry my little parrot, but the “Doomers” worshio Al Gore and the weather!! The water is rising, the deserts are dry, it’s hot in summer and cold in winter, ice everywhere, heat everywhere, bee’s dropping like flies, radioactive fish, and MGO foods, we’re doomed!! LOL!! 🙂

  3. Chris Reed
    Chris Reed 13 May, 2014, 09:36

    Same old, same old. A substantive post focused on a hard fact draws in response the usual onanism from Ted.

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    • SkippingDog
      SkippingDog 13 May, 2014, 11:27

      Funny, Chris, but the University of Texas did an extensive report that doesn’t seem to support the pie-in-the-sky claims made by you and Chuck DeVore. You folks claim to be operating a “journalistic venture,” so why would you ignore more recent facts that don’t appear to support your claims?


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      • Chris Reed
        Chris Reed Author 13 May, 2014, 23:04

        That report says Texas may trail New York among big states but that Texas does better than California.

        “In terms of higher education outcomes, Texas, in comparison to its peer states, finds itself generally surpassing California, but trails New York in virtually all outcomes.”

        Victory is mine! Maybe not a rout, but victory nonetheless.

        Thank you, SkippingDog, for responding substantively instead of providing the 10,000th version of self-satisfying bon mots.

        If you link to something on point, I will respond.

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        • SkippingDog
          SkippingDog 14 May, 2014, 01:00

          Nobody claims all is well with California education, but DeVore admittedly cherry picked the data in the report to ignore such things as ACT/SAT score differentials between the states. He also seems to have missed the data showing that Texas has shown many areas of decline in its education system for the past two decades, and has a long history of under reporting its dropout rate.

          All of that is in the report if you read past the Executive Summary, but even that contains this little gem:

          “In conclusion, while Texas typically performs in the middle between New
          York and California on the K-12 and higher education measures,the state is seeing more trends of decline and stasis than growth between 2000 and 2010 relative to all states in the nation.”

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  4. Ted Steele, Manager
    Ted Steele, Manager 13 May, 2014, 11:00

    A rose by any other name Chris…

    You like to use that word Chris–I bet it’s fun to whip out the old thesaurus for a Sopranos-like malaprop-esque use of an almost relevant word!

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  5. Steve Mehlman
    Steve Mehlman 13 May, 2014, 17:36

    No, no. I demand equal time for Mississippi. Has far more right wing politics and knows how to keep people “in their place.” A much better destination for doomer settlers.

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  6. Charles Corse
    Charles Corse 14 May, 2014, 11:43

    One of the problems, Texas has, is people tend to lump the state with the deep-south. There are huge differences.

    Houston has a Lesbian mayor. The University of Houston is the second most diverse in the country with blacks and Latinos comprising 40% of the student body. And, its academics are surging.

    California and Texas are headed in different directions while people are voting with their trailers.

    Conservative economics succeeds.

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  7. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 14 May, 2014, 16:47

    What don’t all you doomers leave….Will really be peaceful.

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    • John Seiler
      John Seiler 14 May, 2014, 17:08

      Ulysses: My rent has gone sky-high and taxes are killing me. And today the temperature in Huntington Beach is 101 degrees F, with no air conditioning. For the first time in 27 years, I’m eager to leave.

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