Affirmative action attacks GATE school program

May 4, 2012

By Katy Grimes

SACRAMENTO–If you thought that affirmative action was dead in California, think again. In fact, California Democrats behave as if it was never outlawed, and continue to pass laws mandating racial preferences.

The Assembly passed a bill Thursday which would require school districts to dumb down the successful Gifted And Talented Education program in public schools, in order to allow “children of color” into the program.

Assemblyman Bob Blumenfield, D-Los Angeles, the author of this bill, said Thursday that “children of color” are not fairly represented in GATE programs across the state.

Blumenfield and supporters must assume that “children of color” are not capable of testing into the GATE program, and need the assistance of another affirmative action program.

But the GATE program is a meritocratic program, in which students participate entirely on the basis of merit, rather than by birth or privilege, or because of skin color or socioeconomic status. There are obviously many children of all races and genders in the GATE program.

The GATE program identifies student participation in the areas of “intellectual, creative, specific academic, or leadership ability; high achievement; performing and visual arts talent.” And GATE is open to all students who attend public school. No one is keeping them out, other than the deteriorating public education system and union teachers, who incessantly whine about the poor quality of the kids they have to teach, and the lousy parents.

GATE programs are operated in approximately 800 school districts located in all 58 counties,” the bill analysis states. “There are over 480,000 public school students that have been identified as gifted and talented in the state.”

According to Blumenfield,  AB 2491 is needed because, “[I]t is crucial that we provide an appropriate education for gifted children living in disadvantaged situations. While many parents can afford to provide extracurricular enrichment for their gifted children, low-income parents lack the resources to provide these opportunities.”

Blumenfield provided a chart for the bill analysis which supposedly illustrates a suspicious gap of demographic differences between the general student population in California and the student population identified for GATE. “The chart shows an over-identification of White, Asian and  Filipino students and an under-identification of Hispanic and African American students in the GATE program state-wide,” the analysis states.

GATE Student Population

Statewide Student Population

Hispanic or Latino












African American



American Indian or Alaska Native



Pacific Islander



(Source: California Department of Education 2010-11 Data)

However, Proposition 209, passed in 1996 by the voters of California, amended the California Constitution to prohibit public institutions from discriminating on the basis of race, sex or ethnicity.

“The people behind the bill don’t want to have to raise the performance of kids, and instead, want to do the easy thing of reducing requirements,” said Lance Izumi, director of education at the Pacific Research Institute,’s parent think tank. “And the reason they don’t want to do the heavy lifting is because the successful methods go against liberal orthodoxy–more choice for parents, and more individualized delivery of education.”

GATE Program

The stated purpose of the Gifted and Talented Education program is to “develop unique education opportunities for high-achieving and underachieving pupils in California public elementary and secondary schools who have been identified as gifted and talented.”

And the GATE program states, “Special efforts are made to ensure that pupils from economically disadvantaged and varying cultural backgrounds are provided with full participation in these unique opportunities.”

So why the need for the bill?

Blumenfield said that English learners may not receive recognition of high intelligence or talent. Perhaps he is correct, but reading, writing and speaking English are crucial to learning all other subjects in California schools.

AB 2491 specifically mentions the Los Angeles Unified School District.

Blumenfield, who represents Los Angeles, has obvious ties to the Los Angeles Unified School District, which has a large concentration of low-income and minority students.  And Blumenfield received very large contributions from the teachers unions and other public employee unions. LAUSD is a failing school district, and demonstrative of Izumi’s analysis of a school district which doesn’t want to have to raise the performance of the children, and instead, would rather lower the educational requirements in order to appear as if they are performing better.

“If affirmative action really worked, then why is the highest ranked school in all of California the American Indian Public Charter School in downtown Oakland?” Izumi asked. “It is made up of nearly all minority students. They didn’t need affirmative action.”

The American Indian Public Charter School serves 200 inner-city students in fifth through eighth grade, and has an average API of 988.

“The goal of this bill is to encourage better integration of those students who are not in the GATE program but would otherwise qualify,” the bill analysis states. But that statement is highly unlikely according to Ward Connerly, author of Proposition 209 and president of the American Civil Rights Institute.

Connerly said that the bill’s rationale is flawed because of the academic gap between black and Latino students, and Asian and white students. Connerly says that if you take away affirmative action, you take away the ability of schools to discriminate, and schools want to be able to to perpetuate the damaging discriminatory stereotype which presumes black and Latino students cannot compete with Asian and white students. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy for liberals.

Connerly also said that Blumenfield’s bill is inappropriate as the U.S. Supreme Court will decide this fall the landmark affirmative action case, Fisher vs. University of Texas at Austin. The case asks the court to decide whether affirmative action in the university admissions process is a measurement toward increasing the diversity of the student body, or if it violates the civil and constitutional rights of applicants, when schools consider race and ethnicity in university admissions.

The outcome of this case will have deep implications on all school affirmative action policies.

(student photos from the American Indian Public Charter School.)


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  1. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 4 May, 2012, 09:17

    If I were a person of so-called ‘color’ I would organize a march and sit-in on Blumenfield’s office for degrading my people and cloaking us with vestments of inferiority. Besides, this is not the brick and mortar that America was built on. Look at the boat people who arrived from Vietnam. Now their kids are doctors and lawyers. Were they given special favors and allowed to go to the front of the academic line upon arrival. Heck no. They truly lived the American dream. Most came over with only the shirt on their backs and now their kids are practicing professionals in medicine, law, engineering, science, etc… Look at the major universities in California. Asians comprise anywhere from 40% to 65% of the student population when their collective population is maybe at most 10%. You know how they got there? Discipline and hard damn work. That’s how! And my hat comes off to them! Rewarding mediocrity is what is killing this nation! Think about how deflated and downright demotivated the student feels who actually worked hard and deserves to be the the GATE program who got passed up by someone who underperformed him or her??? How do you think that affects his or her psyche? Do you think they will feel like busting their hind end in the future to achieve excellence???

    This is all part and parcel of the dismantling of America and the destruction of simple virtues and values like fairness and rewarding excellence. This is part of the overall reason your nation is coming apart at the seams.

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  2. Rex The Wonder Dog!
    Rex The Wonder Dog! 4 May, 2012, 09:26

    I have no problem settign aside a small % for people of color-10% max, the tests to get into these schools/programs are just your basic standardized tests where the only difference is the ability to get coached on how to take them and the time to study-neigher of which poor people have, and poor should be the standard not color.

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  3. queeg
    queeg 4 May, 2012, 09:31

    Good idea…put everyone in GATE…..but if less than “A” grades immediate removal from the program….monthly…..

    It’s only fair??????

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  4. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 4 May, 2012, 09:41

    A buddy of mine went to medical school at a university well known for it’s prestigious medical curriculum. He told me that there were 2 separate programs. A 6 year program for ‘minority’ students and a normal 4 year program for the standard medical student population. He told me that although the students in the special program were nice and very sociable they had no business being in a highly competitive academic environment that really required advanced skills. Furthermore, he told me that he had good friends who were scored high and were very capable of making it through the 4 year curriculum who were rejected during the application process. And my friend was not a Rush Limbaugh type. He was very level headed and fair in his analyses when it came to everything. America, above all other nations, is supposed to stand for fairness. We have lost that value. Today we reward mediocrity so that we do not ruffle someone’s feathers. And good people get shortchanged as a result.

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  5. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 4 May, 2012, 09:44

    “Good idea…put everyone in GATE…..but if less than “A” grades immediate removal from the program….monthly…”

    Some of them don’t even speak english, queeq. How to you expect them to get “A’s”??

    Anything goes today in America. Anything that brings in money and/or votes.

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  6. CalWatchdog
    CalWatchdog Author 4 May, 2012, 09:57

    Most of the government schools and big universities have a two-tiered system – even the military academies do this. It’s not only offensive, but has created dangerous mediocrity in areas of study in which we need the best and brightest.


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  7. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 4 May, 2012, 10:12

    “Most of the government schools and big universities have a two-tiered system – even the military academies do this. It’s not only offensive, but has created dangerous mediocrity in areas of study in which we need the best and brightest”

    Katy, what it does is foment anger, hatred, resentment and racism. All those things that the government claims that it wants to eliminate. Those people who were unfairly excluded from those programs even though they performed all the prerequisites at a higher level – are going to carry that resentment with they throughout their entire lives. And when they start a business and start hiring people – do you think it’s going to be so-called minorities? Of course not. So now to paper over that problem the government FORCES them to hire convicted criminals – which perpetuates a whole new set of problems. Do you see the chain of events that are destroying society as we know it?

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  8. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 4 May, 2012, 10:50

    Ya see, here is the problem, folks. Where does this insanity stop? Are schools and employers going to be required to bring a certain number of obese people into their programs? Why laugh? I betcha a dime to a donut that if thousands of obese people started rioting and causing havoc it would happen. That is the American way. However, if the calls going into congress were 95:1 to reject TARP – you get ignored. If the large majority wanted Obamacare tossed out – it doesn’t matter what you want. Why? Because you didn’t loot or cause problems. Sorry, folks. That’s the way your system operates. I have been around long enough to make the observations to draw those logical conclusions. If you want to call a duck a rabbit, go ahead. You have that right. But I refuse to. You do not live in a democracy or even a democratic republic or a constitutional democracy. You have rulers and owners and they tell you what to do and they make up the rules as they go along – despite what you want. Now go deal with that.

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  9. Rogue Elephant
    Rogue Elephant 4 May, 2012, 10:59

    What a foolish idea. If a minority student (or any student) can’t meet the academic standards to get into the GATE program, what makes anyone think they’ll be successful in the GATE program?

    Perhaps, the EEOC will outlaw reviewing anyone’s academic records (as they have with criminal records) on the basis that this has a disparate impact on minorities? (Oops, shouldn’t give them any ideas.)

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  10. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 4 May, 2012, 11:25

    “What a foolish idea. If a minority student (or any student) can’t meet the academic standards to get into the GATE program, what makes anyone think they’ll be successful in the GATE program?”

    Come on, Rogue. You know what they do. They dumb down the program and lower the testing requirements. Just like they have done for the regular K-12 programs. No different. They want to bring EVERYONE DOWN to the same mediocre level. No wonder the US is damned near last on a global scale for 1st world nations in math and sciences. The truly gifted get screwed so we have to bring in grads from europe and asia to fill the jobs that require exceptional skills. There ya go!!! AMERICA FLUSHED RIGHT DOWN THE CRAPPER!

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  11. queeg
    queeg 4 May, 2012, 12:04

    Get a grip…..we would not have commission based dental joints in strip malls fillin, drillin, extractin perfectly sound tooths of the unsuspecting…..on credit, high interest, of course….

    And there are ample opportunities for Dr. Saw in military boot camps too!!!

    Forgot….they can teach, run med programs in big city school districts…

    Comeone….the opportunities abound….

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  12. scoutmom
    scoutmom 4 May, 2012, 12:05

    As the mother of a child in the GATE program, I would be incensed if she did not get to attend classes that she qualified for because a minority student who did not qualify took her spot. She took the same test as everyone else, scored in the 99.7% of all students (.1% away from seminar level), and loves her advanced topics and teachers. She also skipped a grade and still tested into GATE at the older level. We work hard and study every night and studies are a focus of our lives.

    I am a half-Hispanic single parent, does that make her disadvantaged? Some might say so. Does that mean she should qualify for special treatment too?? Should I sue to get her into the Seminar classes even though she missed the cut?? Of course not! What a silly notion! She had the exact same opportunities to take the test as the kid next to her who had a stay at home parent with her, and the same chances as the child of Asian descent in her class, and the same as the other kids who are white, brown, red, yellow or a mix of all races! Some kids make the cut, some do not. Life is a competition; study, work hard and you will succeed.

    And as a little background, the GATE test is administered multiple times throughout a child’s learning career. Second grade is mandatory, fifth grade is optional, and before high school they can take it again. All parents have the right to ask for another test if they want to be re-tested. All you have to do is qualify once and you are in the program for your whole learning career.

    Also, GATE is not designed for a large part of the population. You have to score 95% or above to qualify. Plus, not all schools run a GATE program. It is not mandatory to do so. So, you have to be in the top 5% of your testing class plus be at a school that offers the program. Many schools that are underprivileged have a larger problem on their hands than trying to find the funds to run a GATE program. Seriously, if a school has a 40% population of children who score under national standards, and only 7 students school wide who qualify for a GATE program, do you think the school is going to run a GATE program with its funds? No way! Nor would I expect them to – it wouldn’t be a wise choice.

    The unfortunate fact is that many minority children attend these struggling schools, so even if they qualify, the program won’t be there for them. Their lack of participation isn’t being done on purpose by the schools, district or parents. It is the unfortunate reality of demographics, budgets and financial inequality of families throughout California.

    The students who aren’t in GATE still get all the same topics, just at a different pace and depth. And those students need that pace so that they can get good grades and succeed at their level. Each child can grow up to be an astronaut, lawyer, doctor or the president, but to get there, each child needs to be educated at their own level. It’s not about what races should be in GATE, it’s about what each individual child needs to succeed.

    Best wishes to each child in California on their road to education and success!

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  13. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 4 May, 2012, 12:45

    “And there are ample opportunities for Dr. Saw in military boot camps too!!!”

    I had a civilian dentist contracted by the military pull out one wisdom tooth when I was in. Took him a full 1 1/2 hours. By the time it was over with he was sweating more than I was. I often wondered whether he was a 6-year program grad. Needless to say, I waited until I got out until anyone messed with my wisdom teeth again.

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  14. Claire Voyance
    Claire Voyance 4 May, 2012, 16:29

    California’s War Against White Males will never end.

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  15. Rogue Elephant
    Rogue Elephant 4 May, 2012, 17:37

    Sometimes I wonder if Queeg is a spambot, like you find on Twitter.

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  16. queeg
    queeg 4 May, 2012, 17:59

    There is a war against accomplishment…..due to greed, envy and personal frustration….ala poor life choices!

    If your a white male…kick it into overdrive…your only hurting yourself!!

    White males from Ireland and southern Europe faced massive discrimination. A new wave of put down by liberal elites is going down these days.

    Excel, work hard and get educated….only saps wallow in cheap beer!

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  17. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 4 May, 2012, 23:40

    “If your a white male…kick it into overdrive…your only hurting yourself!!”

    Thanks for the advice, dad.

    “Excel, work hard and get educated….only saps wallow in cheap beer!”

    Yeah, get bounced from med school because some knuckledragger takes your seat and when it comes your turn to hire people keep that sticky note in the back of your mind. This is the sort of crap that promotes justified resentment and grudges. Nobody likes it when somebody cuts in front of you in line at the grocery store. Don’t matter what your color happens to be.

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  18. John Galt
    John Galt 5 May, 2012, 09:13

    The end goal of this GATE legislation is probably to increase state tax funds going to the Los Angeles Unified School District. The act’s author, Assemblyman Bob Blumenfield, is Executive Director of Liberty Hill (see, a low income advocacy group funded by these folks (e.g.

    Prior to 1996, California taxpayers spent billions of dollars in a nobel, but futile, struggle to improve minority student academic standing.

    Published research has shown that intelligence and academic performance can not be improved by government programs or more school funding. In this regard, “less is more”.

    Apparently, different capacities for intelligence are largely pre-determined by heritable biological factors at the instant babies are conceived.


    Rushton, J. Philippe; Jensen, Arthur R. (2005). “Wanted: More race realism, less moralistic fallacy” Psychology, Public Policy, and Law, Vol 11(2), Jun 2005, 328-336. doi: 10.1037/1076-8971.11.2.328. Source:


    “Despite repeated claims to the contrary, there has been no narrowing of the 15- to 18-point average IQ difference between Blacks and Whites (1.1 standard deviations); the differences are as large today as they were when first measured nearly 100 years ago. They, and the concomitant difference in standard of living, level of education, and related phenomena, lie in factors that are largely heritable, not cultural. The IQ differences are attributable to differences in brain size more than to racism, stereotype threat, item selection on tests, and all the other suggestions given by the commentators. It is time to meet reality. It is time to stop committing the “moralistic fallacy” that good science must conform to approved outcomes. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2012 APA, all rights reserved)High school GATE teachers expect students to grasp understanding in one communication. Thirty years of research on race differences in cognitive ability.”

    Also, see:

    Rushton, J. Philippe; Jensen, Arthur R. (2005).”Thirty years of research on race differences in cognitive ability.” Psychology, Public Policy, and Law, Vol 11(2), Jun 2005, 235-294.

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  19. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 5 May, 2012, 11:20

    John Galt, that is a very controversial and divisive subject matter and really solves nothing.

    Organized education can certainly make people smarter. That is indisputable. Can it make them more ‘intelligent’? Depending upon how you define ‘intelligence’, probably not – no matter what color they happen to be.

    The problem I have with these preferential programs is that in a very subtle way they tell certain groups of people that they are inferior. When you tell people that either directly or indirectly – they will mostly fulfill that stereotype. Not always. But mostly. That is problem #1.

    Problem #2 is that it promotes mediocrity in a place that should promote excellence.

    Problem #3 is that it punishes people who are rejected – not due to their ability – but due to the color of their skin. And that does not break down the color barrier in America – it only fuels the fire by promoting resentment, anger, hostility and even racism.

    For instance, I see very few if any filipino-americans in the NFL or the NBA. Let’s say the government lords dictated that the NBA and NFL must replace 2% of their current rosters with filipino-americans and 8% of their rosters with asian-americans. Would there be an outcry? Sure there would. But how is that any different than forcing schools to reject more qualified students replacing them with lesser qualified applicants based on the color of their skin???

    I am trying to look at this as logically as I can.

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  20. Claire Voyance
    Claire Voyance 5 May, 2012, 11:44

    Middle Class White Males are not welcome in California.

    I was a VICTIM of Affirmative Action in college (denied scholarship despite highest grades) and have recently been a VICTIM of Affirmative Action in the workplace (denied job despite highest test scores).

    Prop 209 is useless.

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  21. CHokanson
    CHokanson 5 May, 2012, 13:56

    Nothing new really. Decades ago, when GATE programs were still somewhat new, teachers argued that it was unfair and deprived other students of having the best and brightest in their classes. As a magnet school (like a current GATE program) at the time, I viewed those arguments as teachers trying to pawn off their own inability to teach lesser students. But now, I realize that it was just an effort to push everyone to the middle. The odd thing is that this attitude (same education for everyone, push to average) cuts against the simultaneously held attitude of suggesting that teaching should be directed at the individuals strengths and weakness rather than the group’s. It is intellectually dishonest to maintain both of those attitudes and these folks need to recognize that.

    BTW, I have 3 kids — 2 were GATE identified and one was not. These tests are taken at such a young age, I do not see how they can be studied for or how a parent’s resources can make any difference, but maybe I am wrong on that. What I do now is that my non-GATE identified kid does not have the horsepower to be in GATE classes, despite being a great, happy and well adjusted kid. Unfortunately, there ARE innate differences in intelligence and we cannot just ignore that.

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  22. queeg
    queeg 5 May, 2012, 14:28

    Stop feeling bad….work harder…get a better job or start your own gig.

    There is no competition if your good!!!

    And white people got to step up instead of sucking up to liberals and commies…..make yourself so valuable you reek of competence!

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  23. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 5 May, 2012, 15:17

    “Stop feeling bad….work harder…get a better job or start your own gig”

    Who the F are you anyway? Tony Robbins?

    So you’re a retired Puddle Pirate and you got all the answers, huh? heh. You could have the brains of a barnacle and promote in the Navy as long as you stick around long enough and drink with the right crew. I know how that game is played too.

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  24. queeg
    queeg 5 May, 2012, 15:59

    You know little about me… five days a week.

    Your observations: puff!!!!

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  25. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 5 May, 2012, 21:40

    Remember that old show ‘What’s my line?’ that included Kitty Carlisle as a panelist?

    So let me start the line of questioning.

    (1) Does your job include exclusively sitting on a chair in front of a monitor all day and night?

    (2) Is this a job where your boss (or the one who pays you) is networked into your computer and can monitor your activities in real time?

    (3) Is this a job that requires perfection in punctuation of pronoun-verb contractions and the appropriate use of same?

    (4) Is this a job that pays minimum wage by State standards?

    Ok. That’s enough for starters.

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  26. queeg
    queeg 5 May, 2012, 22:30

    My job is making lots of money for very very rich people!

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  27. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 5 May, 2012, 22:53

    Drop some names.

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  28. queeg
    queeg 6 May, 2012, 07:42

    Geed is good!

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  29. queeg
    queeg 6 May, 2012, 07:43

    Greed is good!

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  30. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 6 May, 2012, 09:54

    Let me guess.

    Do you shine Wall Street boots with some of that lucky shoe wax from China?

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  31. Rex The Wonder Dog!
    Rex The Wonder Dog! 7 May, 2012, 14:50

    (3) Is this a job that requires perfection in punctuation of pronoun-verb contractions and the appropriate use of same

    Queeg, don’t answer this one, it’s a trick, take the 5th you’RE going to lose if you do answer 🙂

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  32. Realitycheck
    Realitycheck 7 May, 2012, 17:01

    I am Mexican descent, many generations ago. I consistently scored at the top one percent of state scores.

    Unless, one had a influential parent, no GATE.

    I had my one kids IQ tested as the teacher claimed he was “slow.” He scored extremely high on IQ test. I had him tested to challenge teacher. I asked he be placed in GATE. No response. Teachers tend to score on the. Meyers Briggs Personality Test as gatekeepers. They groom who they want. The state of schools for the greater majority of kids demonstrate how ineffective they are.

    The folks who claim a two track medical school system are silly. Many no lomger minority kids do great, many are first generation Mexican descent kids. They work hard.

    You have affirmative action. You had worthless teachers from your group ruling the roast.

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  33. Realitycheck
    Realitycheck 7 May, 2012, 17:02

    Lomger should be longer

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  34. NorCal Libertarian
    NorCal Libertarian 7 May, 2012, 17:03

    GOOD FOR YOU SCOUTMOM! You are right on with your comments. It’s called Gifted and Talented for a reason! Someone else made a statement earliar about letting everyone in and if you don’t get all “A”s…(is that the criteria because I wasn’t that smart), then they’re dropped out. Everyone has a chance TO PROVE THEMSELVES.

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  35. NorCal Libertarian
    NorCal Libertarian 7 May, 2012, 17:06

    Ooops…hit the submit button too soon…..
    Meant to add that Blumenfield must be up for re-election and is pandering to all his minority voters. I am a so-called minority, but if I lived in Blumenfield’s district, I’d be embarrassed and insulted.

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  36. Realitycheck
    Realitycheck 7 May, 2012, 17:25

    Developed by Dr. Linda Silverman, Gifted Development Center at

    Read: All reqs for GATE , very subjective.

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  37. Realitycheck
    Realitycheck 7 May, 2012, 17:28


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  38. Lee Welter
    Lee Welter 7 May, 2012, 22:48

    Every family deserves school choice — NOT a monopoly K-12 school — for their children.

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  39. Beelzebub
    Beelzebub 7 May, 2012, 23:19

    Personally I have never met a parent who DIDN’T say that their child had an above average IQ. NEVER!

    NEVER have I heard a parent say that they child had a below average IQ. NEVER!

    It is part and parcel of the human condition.

    We can’t escape it.

    People will forever live in denial.

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  40. Claire Voyance
    Claire Voyance 8 May, 2012, 10:28


    Your post is equine feces. Your post contains numerous errors in grammar and punctuation. You are not smart.

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  41. Clueless626
    Clueless626 8 October, 2015, 12:02

    I am a parent of a 4th grader. We recently received a letter from our school district informing us that our son was selected to be in the GATE program.. Im clueless as to what do we expect from it.. Will thay change my sons delivery of lessons, homeworks, will he have extra topics to be learned etc. Bottomline is im wondering if this will benefit my kid and how? Im not yet mailing back the form for my consent…hope you guys can give me feedback on GATE.. Specially the parents whose kids are in the program. Thanks!

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