Gov. Brown signs gun-control bills

Gov. Brown signs gun-control bills

Gun crazyCalifornia’s reputation as a state with a shockingly large number of regulations has been embellished by the 930 new bills it passed this year. Gov. Jerry Brown must suffer carpal tunnel syndrome from signing so many of the bills the past week, while vetoing a few. Two signed:

AB1014 allows family members, friends and others to get an order from a judge to remove the guns of someone accused of mental illness. This is sure to be challenged in court on Second Amendment gun-rights grounds and on Fourth Amendment “unreasonable searches and seizures” grounds.

It also will add costs to city police departments. These guns will not be seized by Sgt. Joe Friday with his .38 service revolver, but by expensive SWAT teams. Relatives also should realize that when a SWAT team comes to grab Cousin Freddie’s guns, they will ransack your entire house looking for them.

Moreover, the definition of who is “crazy” is nebulous. Psychiatry depends on the “Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders,” which keeps changing. The book was critiqued in “The Book of Woe: The DSM and the Unmaking of Psychiatry,” by psychotherapist Gary Greenberg. From the summary:

“Since its debut in 1952, the book has been frequently revised, and with each revision, the “official” view on which psychological problems constitute mental illness. Homosexuality, for instance, was a mental illness until 1973, and Asperger’s gained recognition in 1994 only to see its status challenged nearly twenty years later. Each revision has created controversy, but the DSM-5, the newest iteration, has shaken psychiatry to its foundations. The APA has taken fire from patients, mental health practitioners, and former members for extending the reach of psychiatry into daily life by encouraging doctors to diagnose more illnesses and prescribe more therapies—often medications whose efficacy is unknown and whose side effects are severe. Critics—including Greenberg—argue that the APA should not have the naming rights to psychological pain or to the hundreds of millions of dollars the organization earns, especially when even the DSM’s staunchest defenders acknowledge that the disorders listed in the book are not real illnesses.”

Yet it is the DSM-5 that will be brought forth to a judge as “evidence” that someone’s Second Amendment rights should be violated by a SWAT team.

BB gun markings

SB 199 requires BB guns to have bright markings. According to the Los Angeles Airport Peace Officers Association, which backed the bill:

“Imitation guns are deliberately fabricated to be indistinguishable from real firearms. Law enforcement officers have extreme difficulty distinguishing these fake guns from lethal weapons, particularly when officers must react within seconds to emergency situations. One of the primary dangers posed by replicas is that such guns are used by children and young adults who may not comprehend the seriousness of displaying them around unsuspecting law enforcements officers or around armed individuals. As a result, officers and community residents can find themselves
in precarious situations when unable to distinguish replica guns from handguns and assault weapons.

“On October 22, 2013, a thirteen-year-old boy from Santa Rosa was tragically shot and killed by Sonoma County deputies who mistook the plastic airsoft gun he was carrying for an actual AK-47. This tragedy is neither new nor uncommon. A 1990 study commissioned by the Department of Justice found that there are well over 200 incidents per year in which imitation guns are mistaken for real firearms.”

That’s in a vast country of more than 300 million people. And instead of this legislation, why not legislation requiring more training by police to tell the difference between a BB gun and an AK-47?

CombatHave the authors of this bill, and Gov. Brown, ever been young boys? When I was a kid back in the 1960s and my parents got me a BB gun, there’s no way I would have accepted one with bright markings. Or I would have spray-painted it black.

My favorite TV show in the early 1960s (before “Start Trek” in 1966) was “Combat.” My brother and I imitated the GIs fighting numerous Nazi troops, blasting our way to Berlin. Our heroes, Sgt. Carter, Lt. Hanley, Caje, Doc, Kirby and Littlejohn, didn’t defeat Hitler using brightly colored guns, so neither did we.

Full episodes are here on YouTube.

The bill also won’t prevent kids from importing the guns from other states. Has Gov. Brown heard of Internet shopping? Here’s one listed on Amazon:

BB gun

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  1. LetitCollapse
    LetitCollapse 3 October, 2014, 11:50

    “AB1014 allows family members, friends and others to get an order from a judge to remove the guns of someone accused of mental illness.”

    Oh, isn’t that special? So when Uncle Buck decides to remove a couple relatives from his Last Will and Testament they can ACCUSE him of being crazy and tell the cops to storm his home and take his guns away? lol. Btw, some psychologists and psychiatrists are nuttier than the people who they diagnose as being crazy. It’s sort of like being a SCOTUS or Ninth Circuit Court Justice. It doesn’t really matter what the facts are. It’s how you interpret the facts that counts. The facts themselves are inconvenient obstacles that can be circumvented to reach a particular outcome. 😉

    And what the hell is ‘mental illness’ anyway? Obama has proven over time to be a pathological liar and has used military force on other sovereign nations without any international legal authority whatsoever. Does that make him mentally ill?

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    • Bubba
      Bubba 4 October, 2014, 13:17

      Well what about cus’n Billy Bob whose elevator doesn’t quite go all the way to the top? Aunt Flo gett’n tired of his spending his social security check at Fred’s bar and goes to the family doctor and says he crazy? Next here comes the SWAT team and bam! Billy Bob house is tossed, his guns taken and he ends up in the rubber room with an “I Love Me” jacket, no due process, no appeals and well there you go again….

      Thanks Gov. Moonbeam

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    • LetitCollapse
      LetitCollapse 4 October, 2014, 14:32

      Jerry Brown used to be a friggin’ flower power, bead-wearin’ hippie. And he’s pulling this crap? lol.

      Anyone who doesn’t recognize that we’ve turned into a police state is either so stupid it hurts, incredibly naive or willfully blind.

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  2. SteveM
    SteveM 3 October, 2014, 13:11

    This really sounds like a police state action.Does anyone think a cop will have his guns taken away under this law? It was the practice in Communist Russia(still??) to teach kids to report their parents if the parents were not communists. I wonder if that is next(not caretakers of the environment, your kids turns Daddy into the oinkers for reducation in Bakersfield(Siberia)). Brown just gave in to the state Stasi and vetoed a bill to restrict use of drones by police. I had a blue shirt lughead on my tail for the longest time this week. Plates are current. No open tickets. clean record. Unnerving. I am sure the California SS saw that on his dashboard computer.

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  3. Donkey
    Donkey 3 October, 2014, 18:46

    Now a free minded citizen can be “Swatted” by the nuts of society legally, the noose tightens on the American mundane. 🙂

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  4. T Mind of Ted Your God
    T Mind of Ted Your God 3 October, 2014, 19:59

    Duncey–

    Don’t federal LE agencies have SWAT teams?

    They’re ok are they not little buddy????? They have done an awesome amount of good over the years.

    I think the noose tightens on the American dull-normal — eg….you!

    lmao— it’s just this easy!

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    • Bill Gore
      Bill Gore 4 October, 2014, 15:09

      Haha teddy I love it when you get your vegan ponytail in a knot. We dull normals are the world’s pre-eminent taxpayers, are we not? Little worker drone tax cattle every one of us. If the system mulches us all into soylent green how will we pay the budget for all these wonderful SWAT teams? SWAT teams gotta SWAT but eventually atlas just shrugs and goes on disability. I know, you hate us because you are one of us, just like Torquemada was a jew….

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      • T Mind of Ted Your God
        T Mind of Ted Your God 4 October, 2014, 16:12

        Billy!

        I don’t hate ya little buddy? “Hate”?? How would that be consistent with my “vegan ponytail”? ™ You can do better on this posting stuff can’t ya Billy?

        Oh Billy— please don’t tell me you read part of one of Rand’s dope addled stories and that you actually have “the one” mostly unread of course on a bookshelf at home where visitors can se it? You’re deeper than that Billy, right?

        Teddy Boy

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  5. Bill Gore
    Bill Gore 4 October, 2014, 15:02

    This will really take off in ‘messy’ divorces where one partner owns a gun.
    Get your former partner SWAT teamed and enjoy the following benefits:
    1) REVENGE baby! OH YEAH……
    2) Former partner is now in jail with no due process….
    3) Which means former partner is now screwed as to visitation/custody

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  6. LetitCollapse
    LetitCollapse 4 October, 2014, 21:33

    Bill, did you read the articles about the wife of the Mayor of Bell Gardens who shot him dead and then claimed a history of spousal abuse? But I didn’t see any reports which documents such a history. No previous police contacts or reports, no arrests, etc… and the couple had apparently been married for decades. Hmmm? Neighbors never noticed any problems between the couple. No loud arguments, etc.. Hmmm?

    Yet after the shooting/killing the cops let her go and now she has lawyered up. I just wonder if this happened in reverse – if he would’ve shot and killed her – whether the cops would’ve let him go?

    Then his brother reported that the Mayor may have had a pregnant mistress on the side.

    Hmmm? Perhaps hell hath no fury like a woman scorned?

    If I were a legislator I would propose a bill outlawing guns in any household where one of the occupants is having an active extramarital affair. 😀

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  7. ECK
    ECK 5 October, 2014, 18:51

    I agree. This will be shot down in the courts eventually as it should. However, just watch for bringing in any BB guns from out-of-state to be made illegal. One of the other garbage bills Moonbeam signed now makes it illegal to bring any firearm (not BB guns yet) into CA unless through licensed dealers. What a mess this is going to be. Bob from wherever, gets a job in CA. Wonderful. He’s a hunter (has legal guns), and brings them with him like any normal person. He’s committed a felony, the neighbors call the cops. the SWAT team arrives and……..hell. This is going to happen many, many times. What idiocy (as is most things out of the CA government). This will end in the courts too.

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  8. Desmond
    Desmond 5 October, 2014, 20:01

    I wonder if police will want to enforce taking guns across state. I can see scenario where some cops get Swiss cheesed before they blow the alleged criminal to pieces. Doesn’t fit into a nice pension picture.All those Bradley vehicles will come in handy to level a house of a gunowner. Imagine where California will be in ten years. Singapore may look better. At least, they pick on criminals. Here we send some(undocumented mooching pieces of turd) to college on the dime of legitimate citizens.
    And Brown is a bit conservative…holy ,,,,,this state is screwed.Imagine Harris(I am told she is Willie Brown’s project)..I think the historically appropriate term begins with a W and ends re. I call a pig, a pig, P. I, G.

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  9. T Mind of Ted Your God
    T Mind of Ted Your God 5 October, 2014, 21:52

    Wre skrewed wifout dem gunz cuz we kant potect our freeedumz!

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  10. LetitCollapse
    LetitCollapse 5 October, 2014, 22:31

    There are over 300 million guns in the possession of the civilian population (non-military, non LE) in the USA. lol. About as many guns as there are people. lol. If the State gov thinks that it’s gun control laws will be effective in disarming the people – well, God bless ’em! lol. They might be able to internally destroy the nation socially or financially, but the chances of carting citizens off to re-education or work camps for dissenting opinions IMO are pretty darn slim!!! At least it won’t be as easy as it was with the Soviets or the Nazis! 😀

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  11. CONFUSED
    CONFUSED 6 October, 2014, 00:23

    If some one (others) tell the police that Gov Moonbeam is nuts, DO they take his guns???

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