Armageddon? It's Already Here

John Seiler:

“Armageddon” was the word columnist George Skelton used for what would happen if Gov. Jerry Brown’s $12 billion tax increase isn’t put on a special June ballot, then approved by voters. The two tax-lovers sat down for lunch.

Jerry’s actual words were: “It’ll be a war of all against all.”

In case you slept through Poli Sci 101, that’s a quote from Thomas Hobbes‘ “Leviathan.” He posited that, unless everyone was in thrall to a supreme sovereign — such as the royal he was sucking up to, Prince Charles, later King Charles — then there would be only chaos and life would be “solitary, nasty, brutish, and short.”

Ever since, governments have been using that as an excuse to control us. So Jerry’s just updating a 17th century homily for tyranny.

Skelton wrote of Brown’s peroration on what Armageddon would be like:

“I put up an all-cuts budget…. Then the Democrats change [the all-cuts budget] and put in gimmicks. Then I veto it. Then everybody sits there until we run out of money. It’s not going to be a pretty sight. It’s like one-two: No tax, all cuts, gimmicky budget, veto, paralysis.”

“There’ll be initiatives on taxing wine and beer and oil companies,” he says, “and a split roll” — taxing commercial real estate higher than residential. “And Republicans will counterattack” with anti-union measures and efforts to undermine the public sector.

“There’ll be an unleashing of left and right forces. Everyone will come out fighting. California will become a battleground…. It’ll be a war of all against all. The loser will be the people of California.”

But he, Skelton, the majority Democrats, and many Republicans still don’t get it: Armageddon already is here.

Even if put on the ballot, he tax increases are unlikely to be passed by voters. And even if the tax increases are passed by voters, the tax increases will just snuff out what minuscule economic recovery is going on now. Then there will be even less money for taxes. And even greater cuts will have to be made.

Gov. Davis, Gov. Schwarzenegger and successive Legislatures blew out the budget over the last decade. AB 32 and other anti-business bills chased tax-producing businesses and citizens from the state.

What’s going is the fallout from an Armageddon going on already.

March 10, 2011

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  1. stevefromsacto
    stevefromsacto 10 March, 2011, 17:30

    C’mon, John, these are not tax increases, they are extensions of current taxes. And they haven’t snuffed out economic recovery up to this point, so there is no reason to believe they will do so in the future. Face it, your only goal in life is to do a Grover Norquist: “Shrink government so you can drown it in the bathtub.” And the hundreds of thousands of Californians who–through no fault of their own–are forced to rely on government services be damned!

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  2. Tylerle13
    Tylerle13 10 March, 2011, 19:05

    Hahaha, steveo you have got to be kidding me. First you go with the Michael Moore “We have plenty of money, we just need to steal it from the rich”, then you jump on the NPR “Tea Party people are most racist/violent people in the world” bandwagon, and now your parroting jerry’s “Its not a tax increase…” BS.

    Have you ever had an original thought of your own or do you just copy & paste from other peoples sound bites?

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  3. John Seiler
    John Seiler 10 March, 2011, 19:09

    Stevefromsacto: Actually, my model is another Grover: Cleveland. Great Democratic president. Slashed all that Republican waste and kept taxes low.

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  4. John Seiler
    John Seiler 10 March, 2011, 19:13

    “And the hundreds of thousands of Californians who–through no fault of their own–are forced to rely on government services be damned!”

    Sorry, there’s no more money. It’s going to all those $200,000 per year pensioners who retired to mansions in Idaho.

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  5. stevefromsacto
    stevefromsacto 11 March, 2011, 10:44

    Tylerliar–the ultimate dittohead–has the gall to accuse me of not having original thoughts. Unlike you, I read and learn from all kinds of sources. Why do you think I’m a regular reader of CalWatchdog?

    Your only original thought seems to be your intense hatred for unions, which goes far beyond all reason.

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  6. Tylerle13
    Tylerle13 11 March, 2011, 19:02

    Yes steveo, im the one who posts other peoples articles and steals quotes from reliable sources like Michael Moore & Jerry Brown. I think your a regular reader because you are paid to shine up the tarnished images of scumbags & fool the public into believing that their tax dollars arnt being blown, so you try to plant your lies at the end of articles that expose the unethical behavior being carried out by those same scumbags that you defend every day.

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  7. David from Oceanside
    David from Oceanside 12 March, 2011, 09:31

    Got to take sides here with Steve. Steve puts it brilliantly in this quote, “…the hundreds of thousands of Californians who–through no fault of their own–are forced to rely on government services be damned!”

    Government monopoly rules hurt all Californian’s. Take for example those of us that use public transportation. We are forced to pay taxes for the government monopoly system that is inferior to a market driven private bus system. If Government allowed private industry to compete, the union run public system would be shuttered for better, less costly, more reliable and innovative systems.

    The failing public schools are another example of government run monopolies that harm the users of the system. All tax payers pay vastly too much for a system that under serves the public. Open up schooling to the private sector through no-string attached vouchers and those of us that depend of school services will see immense improvement and we taxpayers will see less of our property confiscated.

    I agree with Steve that public services are extremely important. Lets do the right thing and divorce the stranglehold government places upon them so that those that require service get the best available.

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