Do they really want to combat global warming?


Oct. 31, 2012

By John Seiler

Nowadays, almost anything that happens is blamed on “global warming.” Or its more recent euphemism, “climate change.”

On his blog, Al Gore just wrote:

“For many, Hurricane Sandy may prove to be a similar event: a time when the climate crisis—which is often sequestered to the far reaches of our everyday awareness became a reality….

“Scientists tell us that by continually dumping 90 million tons of global warming pollution into the atmosphere every single day, we are altering the environment in which all storms develop. As the oceans and atmosphere continue to warm, storms are becoming more energetic and powerful. Hurricane Sandy, and the Nashville flood, were reminders of just that. Other climate-related catastrophes around the world have carried the same message to hundreds of millions.

“Sandy was also affected by other symptoms of the climate crisis. As the hurricane approached the East Coast, it gathered strength from abnormally warm coastal waters. At the same time, Sandy’s storm surge was worsened by a century of sea level rise. Scientists tell us that if we do not reduce our emissions, these problems will only grow worse.

“Hurricane Sandy is a disturbing sign of things to come. We must heed this warning and act quickly to solve the climate crisis. Dirty energy makes dirty weather.”

But he’s not serious. Consider California’s AB 32, the Global Warming Solutions Act of 2006. By 2020, just a little over seven years away, it’s supposed to reduce California’s greenhouse gas emissions by 25 percent. California is 2 percent of the global economy. So AB 32, assuming it works as advertised, would reduce greenhouse gas emissions over the entire globe by just 0.5 percent.

In his recent autobiography, “Total Recall,” by Arnold Schwarzenegger, the ex-governor says that AB 32 will inspire countries all over the world to imitate California. But that hasn’t happened. And it’s not likely to happen.

Even if the world adopted a global AB 32, greenhouse emissions would drop by 25 percent across the earth, not 75 percent, 90 percent, or 100 percent.

If Gore, Arnold, President Obama, Gov. Jerry Brown and other global warming — or climate change — alarmists are serious, they would call for much more serious actions. Basically, they should call for shutting down the globe’s entire industrial economy. Conditions would have to return to before the industrial revolution began about 1780 with the “dark satanic mills” that William Blake railed against in his poem, “The New Jeruslaem.


We would need a new Luddite movement wrecking the machines of industrial modernity. The United States would have to destroy all non-green machines — which would be about 95 percent of them, including cars. Maybe then Brown’s high-speed choo-choo would become cost effective.

Then the United States would have to order the rest of the world to do the same to every machine on the planet, going to war if necessary. China is happy to sell America solar panels to reduce greenhouse gases. But there’s no way it’s going to impose Luddism on itself as the country continues to pull tens of millions of people each year out of agricultural poverty by giving them jobs in industrial cities. If China stopped its industrial growth, the ChiCom leadership would face vast social unrest, something they know from their past can kill tens of millions of Chinese and overthrow governments.

Attacking other large industrial countries would be difficult because nine countries have nuclear weapons. And when you have nukes, it’s hard to mess with you. Here’s list of the estimated upper limits of nuke numbers:

USA: 8,000

Russia: 10,000

United Kingdom: 225

France: 300

China: 240

Israel: 200

Pakistan: 110

India: 100

North Korea: <10

Of the four BRIC developing industrial countries — Brazil, Russia, India and China — three have nukes. Brazil doesn’t, but could develop them within months.

So there are two possibilities:

1. Man-caused global warming/climate change doesn’t exist, so don’t worry about it.

2. Man-caused global warming/climate change does exist, but nothing can be done about it because Russia, China, India, Brazil and other countries aren’t going to reduce their industrial development to make Arnold, Jerry, Al and Barack happy. There’s nothing that anyone can do to change that, so don’t worry about it.

As we always have, humans will adapt to whatever happens.






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  1. Hondo
    Hondo 31 October, 2012, 11:45

    If you ask any of these enviro wackoos, they all say the ultimate problem for global warming is over population on earth. I think the enviro wackoos should lead by example and do kill themselves first. I promise I’ll go, right after you (snort).

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  2. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 31 October, 2012, 11:53

    There is nothing we can do to stop warming. It’s natural. Man has nothing to do with it. We can dump all we want into the air and sea, it’s ok. The consensus of climate scientists are all wrong. Rush and Beck graduated high school, I think? That’s good enough for me. These storms are cool. Heck, they’re in the Bible!

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  3. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 31 October, 2012, 12:44

    Teddy, you are melting down, take a chill pill and relax buddy 😉

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  4. Dyspeptic
    Dyspeptic 31 October, 2012, 15:03

    Yes John, we humans will adapt. But what about the snail darters and delhi sand flies and spotted owls and delta smelt and the fuzzy bunnies and Bambi and Thumper? We have to destroy our advanced economies, prolong the Great Recession, give control of our lives to The Overlords and assume third world status to save Thumper don’t we?

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  5. Dyspeptic
    Dyspeptic 31 October, 2012, 15:07

    Al Gore is a scientific ignoramus who flunked out of divinity school and couldn’t beat George Bush even though he had the Presidency handed to him on a silver platter. What a dunce!

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  6. jimmydeeoc
    jimmydeeoc 31 October, 2012, 15:11

    Teddy, Teddy, Teddy………..

    Occasionally right.

    Always silly.

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  7. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 31 October, 2012, 17:46

    Jimmy— No man, I’m serious. This warming? Don’t worry about it. I am CERTAIN that our carbon loading has ZERO to do with it. We ought to just party on. The ocean and atmosphere can absorb and correct ANYthing we do to it. In any case, down here in the bunker, so long as I can get cable, it’s cool. The storms are kinda fun.

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  8. us citizen
    us citizen 31 October, 2012, 18:18

    There was a scientist on TV tonight that said we are in a cycle. This cycle is the same one that was present in the 50’s and we are starting to repeat it. This same cycle was talked about in the 70’s and as predicted back then, is now coming to fruitation.

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  9. eck
    eck 31 October, 2012, 18:34

    There is a third possibility which is, according to the actual data and not the “Playstation” models, that there is long term warming, but any human contribution is miniscule, so don’t worry about it.

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  10. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 31 October, 2012, 18:39

    Eck’s right– He is a genius! Don’t worry about anything. Go to your cubicles—-

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  11. eck
    eck 31 October, 2012, 18:44

    Actually, I’d worry about wackos like Teddy. Beware!

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  12. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 31 October, 2012, 20:16

    I’m harmless. Return to your cubicle.

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  13. BobA
    BobA 31 October, 2012, 20:18

    The earth has been here for over 4.5 billion years and has survived calamities far worse than so-called anthropomorphic global warming. To the earth, humans are nothing more than an annoyance that it can do away with when ever it wants to and there isn’t a damn thing humanity can do about.

    Global warming may be a threat to human existence but to the earth, it’s just another cycle in it’s long existence. That is to say, the earth will still be here long after the last traces of human existence upon this planet is reduced to its molecular form and reintegrated with the earth.

    People need to get over this global warming crap. We ain’t that great. If anything, the planet is just fine. It’s humans who are going away.

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  14. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 31 October, 2012, 22:03

    Global warming is nothing more than a new gov scam to extract more/new taxes, I am sure if it with every passing day….that is wht Teddy loves it.

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  15. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 31 October, 2012, 22:42

    Lay off Teddy! CWD posters strike out against true sages and prophets….very bad form….repent and apologize!

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  16. MikeL
    MikeL 1 November, 2012, 05:34

    Sandy was caused by AGW so send me more money to assuage your complicity with the problems you have caused..

    Al Gore is a snake oil salesmen who figured out a way to have scientifically illiterate people buy the elixir he is selling.

    Teddy please educate yourself with some real science and step away from the propaganda tray.

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  17. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 1 November, 2012, 06:30

    U Haul—- I do what I can and this is the thanks I get……But today is another day….. I must shuffle off to my private sector job now……..I hope there is a new stapler in my cubicle.

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  18. Diesel Rocks
    Diesel Rocks 1 November, 2012, 08:38

    To combat global warming/climate change, all they have to do is STOP PRINTING MONEY!!!

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  19. BobA
    BobA 1 November, 2012, 09:15


    Don’t forget that the funding for scientific research that has no intrinsic value in the real world comes from government grants and funding. All scientific research that has utility in the real world is largely funded by private industry with the government’s role being tertiary at best.

    Climate research, like economics. political science, etc., is pseudo-science with no repeatable inviolable facts to back it up. Science is not consensus: it is incontrovertible and indisputable facts that are easily and readily proven beyond any shadow of a doubt.

    Thousands of years ago, scientific consensus said the the earth was the center of the universe, the sun was a giant lump of coal and all the elements in nature were made of earth wind and fire. Hundreds of years ago, scientific consensus said that universe was filled with aether, combustible bodies burned because they were filled with a substance called phlogiston and the earth was at most 20 – 40 millions years old. One hundred years ago, scientific consensus said that the universe was static and Albert Einstein’s general relativity was wrong. In every case they were eventually proven wrong. Anthropomorphic global warming will eventually go the same way.

    The bottom line is that climate scientists need to “scare up” funding to sustain themselves and their research. Without such funding, they would have to get a real job in the real world.

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  20. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 1 November, 2012, 12:22

    Teddy…have a. asagio cheese, white raisin, sprouts, arugla, aoeli on cranberry bread with a cold pomagranite vito drink!


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  21. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 1 November, 2012, 12:51

    Teddy…have a asagio cheese, white raisin, sprouts, arugla, aoeli on cranberry bread sandwich with a cold pomagranite vito drink!


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  22. BobA
    BobA 1 November, 2012, 16:19

    Diesel Rocks:

    Leave to helicopter Ben and the boys at the Fed, they will have to run out of trees before they stop printing money.

    What’s most unfortunate and tragic about it is that most Americans don’t have a clue about the consequences of printing all that money. The lessons of the Weimar Republic have been long forgotten.

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  23. Ted Steele, The Decider
    Ted Steele, The Decider 1 November, 2012, 19:20

    These storms are so cool—— you people are nuts to worry about global warming— we don’t need to address the carbon—– it’s cool—- relax— you tea baggers sound soooooo defensive!

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  24. BobA
    BobA 2 November, 2012, 08:01


    What do you suppose would happen if there were no carbon in the atmosphere? I already know the answer but for the benefit of others in this forum, let’s hear you explanation.

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