Why we need more gun rights, not gun control

Dec. 19, 2012

By John Seiler

This was testimony before the U.S. Senate by Suzanna Hupp. Look for gun controller Sen. Chuck Schumer. He is protected by armed Capitol Police.

You and I are not.


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    NTHEOC 19 December, 2012, 10:29

    Ok all you rambo right wingers, get ready to start turning in your weapons!! Gun control is in full swing now,on the offensive,and change is near! How many more people need to be slaughtered with your rifles before you comply? Like the great colonel trautman told rambo,”IT’S OVER JOHNNY”!!!!!!!!!!

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  2. jimmydeeoc
    jimmydeeoc 19 December, 2012, 11:17


    Schools have “gun-free” zones….however ineffectual.

    We need a TROLL-FREE zone.

    Of course that would be ineffectual as well, I suppose. I guess we just have to make a pact to not feed you.

    (I first thought you might be Gustavo Arrelano’s sock puppet. But you’re not as clever, and do not pepper your posts with Spanish vulgarities.)

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  3. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 19 December, 2012, 11:28

    You don’t require the same protection as a recognizable public figure. Count your blessings that you can move around freely without the need for those police.

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    NTHEOC 19 December, 2012, 11:51

    Jimmydeeoc says,
    Schools have “gun-free” zones….however ineffectual.
    Hey jimmy boy, figures don’t lie but liars figure!!!Like you…
    On December 14th 2012, two schools on different sides of the world were attacked by men wielding weapons. In one (China), 22 children were injured but none died; in the other (CT), 20 young boys and girls were killed*. The difference? The second killer had a gun, the first didn’t. I rest my case!!!!!!!!

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  5. us citizen
    us citizen 19 December, 2012, 12:52

    Yeah and the nazi’s took all the guns away from the people and look what happened to them.

    The problem is not guns. Its people who dont value life.

    I rest my case.

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  6. Sean Morham
    Sean Morham 19 December, 2012, 12:59

    Some people will be food.

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  7. us citizen
    us citizen 19 December, 2012, 14:16

    soylent green or some sort of roast?

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    NTHEOC 19 December, 2012, 15:29

    us cit says,
    The problem is not guns. Its people who dont value life.
    Yes, and they kill people “WITH GUNS”!!!!! I suggest all you rambo wannabes start contributing more toward your NRA memberships! Did you hear Pres Obama,Then you know your in for it……

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    NTHEOC 19 December, 2012, 15:31

    us citizen says:
    Yeah and the nazi’s took all the guns away from the people and look what happened to them.
    Oh Blah,blah! No matter how much you stock up on your guns bunker boy, you will never be able to stop the gov’t from coming after you.If they really wanted to!!

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  10. Rye
    Rye 19 December, 2012, 17:27

    Rambo right-wingers…..interesting that gun owners are compared to FICTIONAL characters from a FICTIONAL movie. Slaughtered by “my” rifles ? “My” rifles have never been used to slaughter anyone. “My” rifles have never been aimed at children. As saddened & disheartened as I am by the act of terrorism (yes, terrorism) in CN, Im completely disgusted by such mindless & ignorant drivel.

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  11. double l
    double l 19 December, 2012, 17:35

    The massacre in Connecticut was horrendous especially killing the young children. If the powers that be want to control guns, why do they allow abortions?

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  12. NTHEOC
    NTHEOC 19 December, 2012, 17:39

    Hey rye, if you were looking for a group that supports assault weapons and the people who use them to kill ,congrats! You found them!! Again there is no reason in the world anyone other than police or military should own these types of guns!!

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  13. Rye
    Rye 19 December, 2012, 17:46

    Are 22 kids stabbed with a knife any better than 20 kids shot with a gun ? I personally dont think so. Its ALL bad when something like this happens. But criminalizing an entire country over it ? Thats not right either.

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  14. Rye
    Rye 19 December, 2012, 17:56

    My daughter was a student at Columbine. Do you really believe that I support the sickos who perpetrate these horrifying acts ? I have never heard, nor have I ever known, ANYONE, who stood up & said “Yeah Team !” wen columbine happened, or The Coffee Shop, or Tuscon, or VA Tech, or The Sikh Temple, or Aurora, & certainly not CN. But criminilizing an entire country isnt the answer.

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  15. NTHEOC
    NTHEOC 19 December, 2012, 18:56

    Rye says:
    Are 22 kids stabbed with a knife any better than 20 kids shot with a gun ?
    Both horrible acts,one difference though. Of the 22 kids that were stabbed, not one died!! I am not anti gun, I am anti assault rifles(i.e AR15). I believe in home protection and have no problem with someone having a shotgun around the house, Or a single shot bolt action hunting rifle. Why do you support the AR15 type weapons?

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  16. sean morham
    sean morham 19 December, 2012, 19:14

    Soylent green is processed, no, me thinks we are looking at a groups of the disenfranchised splitting up the followers of the Supreme leader(when the s)(t hits the fan…2014) with a hatchet for brunch, camelot organic,

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  17. Rye
    Rye 19 December, 2012, 19:28

    22 kids were still hurt. Where were the police ? How long did it take the military to respond ? A well educated & responsibly trained gun owner could have easily put a stop to any of the afformentioned incidents. As far as ARs go, they are a superb weapon for a variety of uses, incl: target & competition (my kid is an excellent shot), hunting (yes, ARs are used by many as a hunting rifle), & defense. The problem isnt the weaponry, its the people. And as demonstrated, it isnt just guns that can be used. Klebold & Harris had propane tanks. What do you suppose they were going to do with those ?

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  18. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 19 December, 2012, 20:02

    We had an assault-weapons ban for ten years. I don’t know why it was written expire, but it should have been permanent at the time. There are plenty of guns in the hands of the citizens at this moment–nobody is coming to take them away. There is no genocide occuring here, which was the case in Nazi Germany. When you make a comparison like that, you are an insult to all Americans and to our government.

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  19. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 19 December, 2012, 23:10

    jimmydeeoc says:



    Schools have “gun-free” zones….however ineffectual.

    We need a TROLL-FREE zone.
    If we had a troll free zone Teddy and his sock puppets would not be able to post here 😉

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  20. Sean Morham
    Sean Morham 20 December, 2012, 08:58

    Many Jewish people in Germany advocated the gun controls that the government put in place. The people implementing it at the low levels said, what is the harm in this: they followed it. It tool time for the extermination plans to take hold. To think a severe brand of an oppressive gov t can t happen in the good USA, is saying they know more than the Founding Fathers, about the innate nature of people and government. Read your history. The Nazis appointed the Police and volunteer firefighters as branches of the Nazi govt. Their pay was increased commiserate with their new status. Does anyone think our own Police and Fire would not go along with this, when the alternative was losing your job and pension(at best)? If so, go get rich in penny stocks.

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  21. Donkey
    Donkey 20 December, 2012, 22:32

    @SeeSaw- #18, Honey the United States has less than 5% of the worlds population, yet we have 30% of the worlds prisoners. Sounds pretty close to Nazi Germany, with the exception that we still have our weapons!! 😉

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  22. Donkey
    Donkey 20 December, 2012, 22:32

    Ntheoc, you have lost your mind my friend !! 🙂

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  23. Donkey
    Donkey 20 December, 2012, 22:35

    Rye, we have criminalized too many things already in our nation and state. 🙂

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  24. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 20 December, 2012, 23:49

    Well, Donkey I don’t agree with imprisoning anyone who is not a danger to the personal safety of any other human being. There are other ways to enact punishment. I don’t know what the quantity of our prison population has to do with Nazi-ism. Nazi-ism was about genocide–the extermination of people that were of a particular sect/religion–not about home rules and regulations that are part of our legally enacted laws.

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  25. Donkey
    Donkey 21 December, 2012, 06:25

    SeeSaw, nazism was complete state control of the individuals lives of those not connected to the state power brokers; the “extermination” of humans, as well as their incarceration is simply a result of the all powerful state; and what our nation is transitioning too while we write and discuss how California will strip the next dollar from the hands of a private sector worker or curtail an individuals rights to do, read, buy, or move about freely. 🙂

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  26. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 23 December, 2012, 14:28

    I’m free, Donkey. Its too bad, that you refuse to recognize and appreciate what you have in this state/country, compared to what the citizens of Germany had during World War II. If I had been in the Holocaust, I would consider your attitude insulting.

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  27. Donkey
    Donkey 23 December, 2012, 18:54

    It is of no wonder that you could care less for the the tyranny that is taking place against your fellow citizens SeeSaw. Your feelings towards the injustice taking place in our nation towards the Americans caught in the Prison Industrial Complex(PIC) is the same indiffence held by the Non-Nazi German citizens back in the 1930’s.

    I had a Father and a Mother that fought in Europe, two uncles that fought in Europe, five uncles and an Aunt that fought in the Pacific. I lost two Uncles that I never had the chance to meet, one at the battle of the bulge and one in the Philippines. Since the revolution my ancestors have been fighting for the freedom of others. The key idea in my words is fight Seesaw. I served my nation is the USN. My ancestors and I have always sought to serve the cause of freedom. I almost left out my two brothers that fought in Vietnam, my thrid son that was in Iraq, and three of his cousins that have been in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    People like you come along and take it for granted, then through the RAGWUS grab the biggest piece of pie you can get your hands on! Now I absolutely find that insulting to my family’s history!!! 🙂

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  28. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 23 December, 2012, 21:36

    You’re not the only one with a family history of fighting for their country, Donkey. My spouse lost a brother in France–he is buried at Normandy, and his cross is identified; other brothers served; my uncle served in WWII and his son, my adorable cousin, survived two tours in Vietnam. My son’s little league coach died in Viet Nam. There are plenty of patriots in this country, Donkey–not just you and yours! Don’t think that subject has any place in a discussion about your hatrid of public employees. I find you insulting, period!!!

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  29. Donkey
    Donkey 24 December, 2012, 09:43

    You are so disconneted from reality SeeSaw. I don’t hate anyone, and this seems to always be the road that leftists take when confronted with the truth.

    Our freedoms are being usurped by the RAGWUS machine to which the PIC is a huge part. In my life I have read about too many questionable murders by agents of the state, that have recieved no consequences for these actions. The murder of Doug Zerby, a man that was only setting on a stair step, with no warning, was shot in the head from above and no fault was charged to any of the killers.

    SeeSaw, you are not different than the Germans that lived and worked next to the concentration camps and claimed they didn’t know what was going on. But I still love you!! 🙂

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  30. MyRight?
    MyRight? 26 December, 2012, 18:59

    If you tell me that mass murderers’ right to have a gun for mass-murder is protected by Second Amendment, then my question is:
    do we have to have a “right for kids NOT to be killed” Amendment to the Constitution in order for the kids in school to be protected from mass-murderers? Do we have to have an amendment of a “right every of American NOT to be a victim in a mass-shooting”? If mass-murderers right to own a mass-murder gun is protected by Second Amedment, then how is my right NOT to be killed by that mass-murderer is protected?

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