S. Court splits on defending civil liberties

350px-Supreme_Court_US_2010Feb. 24, 2013

By Steven Greenhut

SACRAMENTO — The U.S. Supreme Court’s recent decisions regarding police powers were mixed, thus offering a reminder to civil libertarians that they cannot depend upon the high court to protect the public from unwarranted government intrusions.

“The U.S. Supreme Court handed police one victory and one loss on Tuesday,” reported National Public Radio. “In one decision, the justices limited the power of police to detain people who are away from their homes when police conduct a search. And in a second case, the justices ruled that drug-sniffing dogs don’t have to get every sniff right in order for a search to be valid.”

NPR’s ballgame metaphor hints at reality: Whenever the authorities win, the public loses some of its personal liberties. The recent police “loss” came in Bailey v. United States. Police had a warrant to search the apartment of a Long Island, N.Y., parolee, Chunon Bailey. Unaware of the impending search, Bailey drove away. Police followed him, stopped him three-quarters of a mile from his home and then detained him.

The court answered this simple question: Does a search warrant apply only to the location of the warrant or does it give police an open-ended document that allows them to detain and search people practically anywhere?

Justice Anthony Kennedy, writing for the majority in the 6-3 decision, concluded: “The categorical authority to detain incident to the execution of a search warrant must be limited to the immediate vicinity of the premises to be searched.” Kennedy concluded that a failure to put limits on a search warrant would “violate the usual rules for arrest based on probable cause.”

The majority opinion seems obvious and sensible. A search warrant authorizes police to search a particular place, not cast a net miles away from the location. The court’s odd minority coalition — liberal Stephen Breyer and conservatives Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito — was disturbed that the decision did not provide police officers with a “bright yellow line.” They argued that definition of “immediate vicinity” was not understandable enough. Yet, that hazy line seems better than the bright one that Breyer, Thomas and Alito prefer — giving police unlimited power to detain a search-warrant subject anywhere.

Police dogs

In the police “victory,” the high court granted broad authority for using police dogs to sniff for contraband — overturning the Florida Supreme Court’s insistence that the dogs be properly trained to find the substances they are looking for.

In the Florida case, a police officer encountered a nervous driver, and then allowed a dog to sniff for drugs. As USA Today reported, “[T]he search didn’t turn up drugs that could be sniffed; instead, ingredients for manufacturing methamphetamine were found.”

The driver in this case turned out to have illegal chemicals, but, as a result of the court’s unanimous ruling, the rest of us can expect to increasingly be sniffed at by those menacing police dogs at more places. Sadly, Americans will get used to that intrusion, just as they have become accustomed to ubiquitous highway checkpoints, airport screenings and X-ray scanners.

On the biggest civil-liberty issue before the court this year, the justices did the right thing in a back-door way. In November, the court chose not to review a lower-court decision that blocked an Illinois eavesdropping law that could impose 15-year prison sentences on people who videotape on-duty police officers.

Many states require the consent of all parties before you tape a conversation. In Illinois, the law was applied even to authorities doing their job in public view and on the public dime. Throughout the country, police have been arresting people who record them now that the widespread use of cellphone cameras has occasionally caught cops misbehaving. The Huffington Post reported on an Illinois woman who, while complaining about an alleged sexual assault by a police officer, was arrested for videotaping officers who she said was trying to bully her into not filing a report.

An appeals court found such recordings to be protected by the First Amendment.

Given the high court’s mixed record on civil liberties, it’s probably best that it punted on the matter and allowed a strong lower-court decision to stand.

Soon enough, though, the court will need to wade more deeply into this area. It’s shocking how quickly, for instance, local law enforcement agencies are embracing aerial drones. A couple of cities have passed limits on drone use, but, as the New York Times reported, “[D]rones are becoming a darling of law enforcement authorities across the country.”

No wonder, given the availability of Department of Homeland Security grants and a strangely authoritarian mindset that has taken hold in our country.

Conservatives concerned about encroaching big government used to join forces at times with old-style civil-libertarian liberals to push back against the never-ending inertia of government agencies and officials always seeking more privileges and power. But that “leave us alone coalition” has evaporated.

The high court’s record on civil liberties could be worse, but I’d feel far better about the state of our freedoms if that coalition would rise again.

Steven Greenhut is vice president of journalism for the Franklin Center for Government and Public Integrity. [email protected]


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  1. Donkey
    Donkey 24 February, 2013, 07:34

    The LE cabal has been seeking unlimited powers to abuse, maim, arrest, and even murder any citizen they come in contact with, and they want immunity to do so in every event.

    The police have creeped into the schools, have built huge data bases on students, are collecting DNA from people that are charged but then charges are dropped if a sample is given. One of these abuses is enough to raise questions, but taken as a whole one can see that the police state is operating on all cylinders. Look at the rise of the Prison Industrial Complex, in just 25 years the prison population has grown 1000%. These types of figures are what one would expect from a totalitarian police state regime, well we have one right under our noses, but still too many citizens believe “that can’t happen here,” it can and it has been for years, and it is growing still larger. 🙂

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  2. The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm)
    The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm) 24 February, 2013, 08:05

    LOL—- Name 3 “rights” you little people have “lost”—- lol—-just 3— please….

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  3. Rye
    Rye 24 February, 2013, 08:53

    In 1995 LA,LB, & SD put laws on the books that stated front & back yards were no longer considered private property (SD later repealed said law). This gave LE the unfettered right to come on private property sans warrant. In 2002 I was personally witness to a hispanic man placed under arrest, his crime: getting his ass kicked by 3 white dudes (said dudes walked away). In 1991, the super gov. determined that motorcyclists no longer had the right to choose weather to wear a helmet or not (trivial perhaps, but still a right is lost, & LE just loves dispensing tickets for this). Finally, the fed gov. has determined that my paycheck is to be used to support every freeloader in the country (what about my family’s right to have a husband & father that takes care of them ?).

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  4. us citizen
    us citizen 24 February, 2013, 09:18

    Rights…..have to wear seat belts, cant ride a bike without a helmet, new one….demanding a smart meter be stuck on the side of your house, new one….cant walk across street at a 4 way controlled stop even though booklet says you can. Cant board airplanes now without being searched or xrayed. Little by little.

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  5. Mrs. White
    Mrs. White 24 February, 2013, 09:19

    The Roman Church is far-reaching in her plans and modes of operation. She is employing every device to extend her influence and increase her power in preparation for a fierce and determined conflict to regain control of the world, to re-establish persecution, and to undo all that Protestantism has done.

    God’s word has given warning of the impending danger; let this be unheeded, and the Protestant world will learn what the purposes of Rome really are, only when it is too late to escape the snare. She is silently growing into power. . . . Stealthily and unsuspectedly she is strengthening her forces to further her own ends when the time shall come for her to strike. All that she desires is vantage ground, and this is already being given her. We shall soon see and shall feel what the purpose of the Roman element is. Whoever shall believe and obey the word of God will thereby incur reproach and persecution.—Great Controversy, pp. 565, 566,p. 581.

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  6. Donkey
    Donkey 24 February, 2013, 11:19

    Teddy Steals, Rye and US citizen just walked all over your attempt at being brillant and clever.

    For my part: Law Enforcement authorities may now conduct secret searches and wiretaps in your home or office
    without showing “probable cause.” They need only to claim that intelligence gathering is “a significant
    purpose” of their intrusion, even when the primary goal is ordinary law enforcement. They may also
    monitor where and to whom you send and receive e-mail, or where you go on the Internet, recording
    every e-mail address and website you have been in contact with.
    Law Enforcement may now demand any personal records held by any source including your doctor,
    employer, accountant, or library. All they have to do is claim that it is related to an investigation into
    “terrorism.” The record keepers may not reveal that your records were provided to the government.
    Judicial oversight of secret searches has been effectively minimized. The Patriot Act directs judges to
    consent to secret searches based only on the Government’s assertion that a “significant” purpose of
    an investigation is gathering information related to “terrorism,” as the government defines it.

    Americans can now be jailed without a formal charge & without the right to confront the witnesses or
    evidence against them. American citizens are now being held in military jails without charge and without
    a clear path of appeal for their indefinite confinement.
    Hundreds of Arab, Muslim and South Asian men were rounded up in the Ashcroft raids following
    September 11, and held for weeks without charges until all were cleared of terrorism charges.

    The U.S. Government may now jail its residents and citizens indefinitely without charge & without a public trial.

    The Government may now prosecute librarians or keepers
    of any other records if they reveal that the government
    requested information on their clients or members in the
    course of an investigation. It has become a crime for these
    individuals to try to safeguard your privacy or to tell you
    that you are under investigation. But the government fails to comply with “Freedom of imformation” requests from citizens with no accoutability whatsoever.

    Teddy, sometimes a fool doesn’t look so foolish when they remain silent, as you should have my friend!! 🙂

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  7. Rye
    Rye 24 February, 2013, 11:46

    Well said Donk. And, of course, we shouldnt ignore (as weary as I am of talkin about it), the fed gov’s blatant (read: screw you if you dont like it) attempts to do away with our, yes our, constitution (read: constitution is an obsolete, outmoded, &irrelevant form of governance).

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  8. stolson
    stolson 24 February, 2013, 11:47

    Patriot Act, NDAA–all new world order united nations directives to reduce citizens’ rights for control over our lives. Education is next.

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  9. Rye
    Rye 24 February, 2013, 11:50

    Stols, Education has been on the block for decades now. Nothin “next” about it.

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  10. Donkey
    Donkey 24 February, 2013, 11:58

    Rye is correct about education, it is nothing but an indocturnation tool, filled with propaganda of the left. “Surrender your rights for true freedom,” that is their message. 🙂

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  11. Rye
    Rye 24 February, 2013, 12:18

    Im not sure if I necessarily agree with that Donk. Though for the last 20-25 years, there has been ever more disturbing attempts at…..”Re-Education”.

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  12. Donkey
    Donkey 24 February, 2013, 12:25

    Rye, sometimes I get excited, nothing is absolute in my rants, but mostly true! 😉

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  13. Donkey
    Donkey 24 February, 2013, 12:27

    Rye, what is your view on the American Gulag/PIC? 🙂

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  14. Rye
    Rye 24 February, 2013, 12:28

    Dozen of one, half dozen of the other. NBD Donk.

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  15. Rye
    Rye 24 February, 2013, 12:37

    Donk, do you refer to the tree-hugger movement, or the treatment (mis-treatment ?) of our judicial system concerning immigrants & the mentally ill ? No comment on the huggers. But our judicial system needs to quit stringing people up for even the most trivial transgression while letting the hardcores run free.

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  16. Donkey
    Donkey 24 February, 2013, 13:26

    I call the tree-hugger folk “eko-freaks” mostly, as to the PIC, it has gone totalitarian in the last 25 years Rye, that is what I have seen transpire in my 55 years of life. I know of teenagers that were involved in fist fights that have been branded violent felons before their 18th birthday for things that every boy I knew did back in the day. Males have always fought, into their mid to late twenties, and the “system” used to reflect these truths when dealing with males. Now the PIC is only looking for more chattel for their dungeons to increase their pay, perks, pensions, and benefits.

    We, as citizens were not meant to be used as a source of income for the punitive PIC, which by the way is by far the lagest in the world. With less than 5% of the worlds population the U.S. has 30% of the worlds prisoners, not what the Founders envisioned, being that 80% of the wards of hte state have harmed no one other than themselves by abusing drugs or not! 🙂

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  17. Rye
    Rye 24 February, 2013, 13:52

    that explains it better for me. I almost was one those branded a felon before I was 18 (the judge thought I might enjoy enlisting instead. Turns out he was right.) and even then one could see the things were being handled. Kids that got in a fight, or got caught takin one of dad’s beers, or drivin without a liscence, etc. were getting time, while kids that murdered, robbed, and raped or had serious mental issues were walkin out the courthouse doors. I was sitting on the defendants bench next to a 14 year old in a straight-jacket (yes I said straight-jacket) his crime: assualt & rape (turns out it was his own sister), his sentance: 5 years probation, 1 year court mandated “counseling”. I was looking at a 2 year down for “joy-riding” (yes, I stole the car while it was sitting at a gas pump, it was a mercedes & a damn nice car)

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  18. The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm)
    The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm) 24 February, 2013, 16:30

    LOL— you poor trolls!

    As always I asked to name 3 rights you’ve lost— Only Us Cit could name one!

    And what was it? His so called right to not wear a helmet! LOL— Where do you find that right in the Constitution?

    The NDAA took your rights? Truly? So am I to assume that you’ve been arrested and held? LOLOL

    I doubt it— more right wing hissy fit whining! LOL
    You Fox News AM radio guys are brilliant!!

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  19. Rye
    Rye 24 February, 2013, 17:26

    We were speaking of civil liberties in general Teddy. The constitution is a part of those. As far as Fox & AM, I listen to niether. I make every effort to formulate my own thoughts & ideas. It’s called free thinking. Check it out sometime.

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  20. Donkey
    Donkey 24 February, 2013, 18:13

    Ted Steals, you don’t have a clue whether a right has been taken, based on the fact that you believe they are doled out by government, when the truth is the Constitution was created to curb to power of the state, not dictate to the people what to wear or when they can move.

    Steals, you are a RAGWUS feeder, all you want is more money and power. Well the money is running dry and the people are waking up to your fraud. 🙂

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  21. The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm)
    The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm) 24 February, 2013, 19:51

    Rye– your answer speaks volumes—- you guys always whine and can never define a “right” YOU have lost. I just think it’s important to frame and put your complaints in context– that is– you’re always complaining, but never ACTUALLY losing any rights! LMAO…..

    and Dinky Duncey—certain rights are inalienable and certain Constitutional proscriptions protect us all—of course NONE of those rights have been “lost” and MANY MANY expanded thanks to Art. 3…..but since your knowledge of the Constitution would fill a thimble…….(lol oh my), I’ll save that lesson for another day little buddy!


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  22. Donkey
    Donkey 24 February, 2013, 20:12

    How’s that foot taste Steals? As with every lefty, you have a twisted illusion to fit your skewed reality, fool, jester, or clown brings you to mind. 🙂

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  23. The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm)
    The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm) 24 February, 2013, 20:35

    …….and what “rights” did you lose little buddy? Or like your continual failure to comment on any of your previous prediction fails are still unable to comment? Bwahahahahahaha,

    LOL 0 for 14 ™!
    Zero the Poodle ™

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  24. dltravers
    dltravers 24 February, 2013, 21:55

    Take a look at your what your buddies in the ACLU are doing. They have a pretty good list of recent rights lost:


    Use cut and paste into your browser if you know how.

    Most, including me, are sick of these right and left labels. It should be what is right or wrong, not who is right or wrong.

    You dont have to have been a victim, the potential is enough. A false accusation is enough. The laws have changed in that manner so we all have lost even if you cannot see that.

    We have lost rights when a government can anyone detain us permanently. What are you thinking! It did not happen to you so it does not exist?

    Both sides are culpable in this mess.

    Political parties are much like religious cults. More so the Democrats than the Republicans. Clearly the Dems are unified in their authoritarianism. The Republicans still have some very loud dissenters to their cabal of leaders.

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  25. The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm)
    The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm) 24 February, 2013, 22:03

    dl travers–

    OK — I read the aclu ad—- it lists No right lost. It alleges some things but concludes nothing. The gov still needs specific articulable facts of the reasonable suspicion of crime ™ ….nothing has changed. Every case cited is anecdotal but there are virtually no citable president in courts of record abridging any true rights. This is mostly hype…..yaaaaaaaaawn……

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  26. Donkey
    Donkey 24 February, 2013, 23:12

    Teddy Steals, you need to read the Bill of Rights, you come across as a daff fool, every citizen is at risk of death when encountering your LE cabal, just go and ask the Doug Zerby family.

    The humans that inhabit your RAGWUS are mentally ill, just plain sick in the head! 😉

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  27. The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm)
    The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm) 25 February, 2013, 08:21

    Every human is at risk from the cabal?


    What about Mr. Math?

    How many people are not killed by the cabal each year given how many are contacted by the cabal members? Don’t you think people have about a one in 10 million chance of being molested by the hordes of cabal members? ™

    Oh…..my heavens………would that the Duncey had a brain!

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  28. Donkey
    Donkey 25 February, 2013, 10:14

    LOL!! You are a foolish dunce Teddy Steals. Your LE cabal is the very basis of the PIC, you swell its numbers with petty arrests, based on charges that were unknown thirty years ago. All one has to do is look at the U.S. prison population, less than 5% of the worlds population and we have 30% of the worlds prisoners. You let that sink into your little skull Steals and then ask yourself why these numbers are so skewed in the land of the free!! 🙂

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  29. The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm)
    The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm) 25 February, 2013, 10:46

    LOL– you poor criminal coddler. Mmmmmmm—maybe we should send the non violent crooks to classes for “treatment”….mmmmm….that would be so nice. I’m certain it would work. And I am sure that non of the violent felons and misdemeanants EVER commit “minor” crimes…so we should probably send them to classes too….mmmmm….they would like that. That’s so nice Duncey. Ebver stop to think why America has so much crime little Duncey? Mmmmmm, probably not. You tend to offer simplistic one size fits all Beckian El Rushbo logic to all of your pronouncements.The founding fathers had draconian penalties for crime little fella—- so…what to do? It’s sooooooo complicated….mmmmmmmmm

    your ultra whacky posts make this so easy.
    I wonder why the majority of Americans are so uncomfortable with tea baggers in general?

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  30. Donkey
    Donkey 25 February, 2013, 16:54

    I pictured you holding your mama’s hand on that last rant Steals, still being weaned are you?

    I see you have no incite or ability to answer my query, and your childlike fits are just another example of the LE RAGWUS chimps rolling around in your cabal.

    Another try for an uncanned answer from a trough feeder that makes his living jailing his fellow citizens. Why is it that with less than 5% of the worlds population the U.S. has 30% of the worlds prisoners? A very simple question little man! 🙂

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  31. The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm)
    The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm) 25 February, 2013, 18:35

    LOL— Wouldn’t it be nice if you actually knew anything about it?

    I love that you think I’m a cop! I take that as a compliment, I sort of wish I was! But I am not— not by a loooong shot. But please go on with you fantasy!

    Poor Duncey! The high desert singlewide is cold in the winter!!

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  32. The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm)
    The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm) 25 February, 2013, 18:42

    The murder rate per 100,000 people is far higher in the USA than other industrial countries (but lower than some third world countries.)
    Why? ( from most important to least important)
    1. The vast number of guns in the hands of the American public.No other First World country has guns like the USA does. Any wacko can get a gun. It is allot harder to kill someone if you do not have a gun.
    2. Americans are more violent than other peoples.
    3. There are lots of very poor people in the USA and they are close to people that have allot. For some people robbery and violence seems like the best way to make money.
    4. The illegal drug trade leads to turf wars and lots of murders.

    LOL— The above answer ought to spin uo Duncey for awhile!I lifted it from Yahoo answers! Enjoy Duncey!

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  33. The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm)
    The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm) 25 February, 2013, 18:50

    Duncey– If you are truly interested in why the US violent crime rate dropped last year, have someone in your trailer park read this article to you! God Bless ya little buddy!!


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  34. Donkey
    Donkey 25 February, 2013, 21:00

    Whether you are LE RAGWUS feeder or boot licking lacky, it matters not. LE holds a state monopoly on gun violence, exercised by people who are trained and authorized to kill pregnant women, children, and the elderly, and as Katy Grimes pointed out in her article a few weeks ago the U.S. has one of the lowest per-capita murder rates in the world. 4.8 per 100,000, lower than all nations South of the United States to the tip of Chile.

    United States: 14,700 murders, 4.8 per 100,000

    Mexico : 25,800 murders. 22.7 per 100,000

    Brazil : 41,000 murders 21.1 per 100,000

    No nation except Canada in the North or South American continets has a lower murder rate than the United States Teddy Steals, so your lies above are completely false and are easily disproved.

    Every numbered points you made @ post #32 is either a lie or half truth, which leads me to believe that you are in LE, it is a trademark they use as state sanctioned liars.

    Now how about answering my original syllogism Teddy Steals!! Why do we have such a large PIC when compared to the rest of the world? 🙂

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  35. The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm)
    The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm) 25 February, 2013, 21:31


    Hey little buddy—I didn’t write the post! Maybe you ought to read the ending!!




    My God it is easy to spin up the trolls who don’t read the posts!

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  36. The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm)
    The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm) 25 February, 2013, 21:32

    Maybe YOU can answer MY question? Finally?

    What ‘rights’ have you lost personally little buddy?


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  37. Donkey
    Donkey 25 February, 2013, 22:03

    @ #36, been answered!

    @ #35, I read the lies you posted Steals and I disproved them. It doesn’t matter where you picked them up, you put your skanky name to them when you posted, like you they are lies.

    Now post another lie since you have no ability to answer a legit question. 🙂

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  38. The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm)
    The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm) 25 February, 2013, 22:16


    You just won’t answer….

    What rights have YOU lost?— I guess the answer is NONE LMAO!
    I thought so.
    All talk and you NEVER bring it.

    As to #35, I guess you’ve learned your lesson and you’ll read more carefully. So far tonight you are 0 for two! You thought I was a policeman and you thought I wrote a post you disagree with! What a child!

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  39. Donkey
    Donkey 25 February, 2013, 22:56

    Teddy Steals, you are a left wing loony and a LE boot licking coward. Go troll on one of your pension sites you fool, you have nothing of any value to add where intelligence is involved. Your new name is coward troll! 🙂

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  40. The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm)
    The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm) 26 February, 2013, 06:40

    LOL— Two questions Duncey-

    1. What rights have YOU lost?

    2. Where’s our little buddy Poodle?

    I wonder if he’s back in jail…..

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  41. Donkey
    Donkey 26 February, 2013, 16:35

    You are a lost soul Steals! How’s that RAGWUS taste? 🙂

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  42. The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm)
    The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm) 26 February, 2013, 17:21

    LOL— I guess you are seriously not going to tell me what “rights” you’ve lost! LMAO Just drone on like Beck and prove nothing! Oh man—you are 100% tea bag.

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  43. Donkey
    Donkey 26 February, 2013, 19:42

    Already been posted, and those were just a fraction little one. 🙂

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  44. The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm)
    The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm) 26 February, 2013, 20:01

    You did not post even one so called right that you have lost! You live in a troll fantasy world little buddy! LMAO—

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  45. The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm)
    The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm) 26 February, 2013, 20:17

    Poor Duncey just doesn’t get it! Just one right that YOU have lost little biuddy….not hypothetical rights that maybe some terrorist might not enjoy, but ANY right that you personally have lost. ANY.

    Because the context of your rant is always the same– YOU are fat, dumb and happy and enjoying all of the same protections that you’ve always enjoyed—-lol——Since 1788 if the gov had pc they could lock you up little buddy. Over time art. 3 has expanded the power of the gov to restrain your liberty when police could articulate a reas. suspicion. But you never lost a right—– or—— if you think you have……..NAME IT!


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  46. Donkey
    Donkey 27 February, 2013, 05:49

    Already been posted Steals, now answer my question coward troll. You are a slave to your LE cabals mantra, ignorance is bliss to the slave.

    The Bill of Rights spells out an individuals protections and was to limit the power of the government, try reading it fool. 🙂

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  47. The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm)
    The Modified Ted Steele Methodologies (tm) 27 February, 2013, 08:06

    LOL– I KNEW you couldn’t post them! Why?

    Because guys like you, sit in your singlewides wearing your week old underwear, usually unemployed because of your personality disorders, badmouthing your Country all the while still having every constitutional right known to man this side of the Magna Carta.

    You’re dull-normal Duncey– sorry little buddy!

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  48. Donkey
    Donkey 27 February, 2013, 18:48

    Already been posted Steals, you must be daff!! Rye, UScitizen, and I all posted at the top of this story. Do you have alzheimers? 🙂

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  49. mary
    mary 7 June, 2013, 17:21

    sorry guys it takes a brain to have alzheimers.this little,very little peabrain is sorely lacking. first,anyone living in a single wide,double wide,any kind of trailer does not make ignorant or stupid or unamerican.if your week old underwear makes you uncomfortable turn them inside out,just helping you along ted steele.maybe you should modify your attitude.to choose is one of the rights you do not have,since there are so many laws made,just to generate money.more laws make more criminals.if this is free speech your acting out,by insulting someone you can’t see then it is not free speech,so that makes you a,oh what the hell,go drink another bottle of brave juice.GOOD BYE …..TED STEELE!

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