Now Toyota leaves CA for TX

Now Toyota leaves CA for TX

Toyota building - wikimedia 2In another major blow to the California economy, Toyota is moving its headquarters from Torrance to Dallas after 57 years here. The excuse is that it wants to be near its manufacturing plants in the Southeast. That itself is telling. Toyota shut down its last Golden State plant in Fremont in 2009.

The plant now makes Teslas, a car that wouldn’t exist without massive government subsidies and credits. It’s the only car plant left in California. It’as basically a high-tech Trabi.

On the Toyota move, the L.A. Times reported about Occidental Petroleum and other companies fleeing California:

Like these other companies, Toyota could also save money in an environment of lower business taxes, real estate prices and cost of living.

Frank Scotto, Torrance’s mayor, said he had no warning of Toyota’s decision. He said he did know that the automaker planned a corporate announcement for Monday.

“When any major corporation is courted by another state, it’s very difficult to combat that,” Scotto said. “We don’t have the tools we need to keep major corporations here.”

The mayor said businesses bear higher costs in California for workers’ compensation and liability insurance, among other expenses.

And remember, almost all those several thousand Toyota jobs are middle-class jobs on which to raise a family. This is another indication that the middle class just isn’t welcome in California.

To change that, what’s needed, for starters, are: massive tax cuts, massive cuts in government waste, repealing AB 32 and the California Coastal Commission, strong pension reform and reducing the government workers’ unions’ lock-grip on government power.

That is, it’s not going to happen.

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  1. billyBS
    billyBS 28 April, 2014, 08:02

    Good for the Uhaul business. The roving doomer globalist company.

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  2. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 28 April, 2014, 09:01

    “When any major corporation is courted by another state, it’s very difficult to combat that,” Scotto said. “We don’t have the tools we need to keep major corporations here.”
    No, it is easy to combat, you simple stay competitive. It is only hard to combat if you REFUSE to stay competitive.

    The problem is Amerika has become a country in decline, due to massive bailouts of both the private sector and the public sector.

    As stated in this article, Tesla would not even be in business if they were not gifted billions in corporate welfare. And we all know how that works out in the long run- just as Solyndra.

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  3. Ted O'Steele, CEO
    Ted O'Steele, CEO 28 April, 2014, 09:19

    We’re doooooooomed!

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  4. Donkey
    Donkey 28 April, 2014, 09:43

    Just spent two weeks in Texas, the restaurants were packed in the Hill Country, Austin, and Fort Worth. I had a sense of 1960’s California, very vibrant, people on the move, working hard and having fun. As opposed to California where the five adults in front of you are using EBT cards, homeless citizens are lying in the streets, and a new tax is floated everyday by a RAGWUS feeding cretin.

    Two weeks is not enough time to really see the true costs of a permanent relocation, but I can tell you homes are cheaper, fuel is cheaper, electricity is cheaper, the roads are posted with faster speed limits, the people are friendlier, the food is great, and not once did I hear anyone say “I deserve.” 🙂

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  5. John Seiler
    John Seiler Author 28 April, 2014, 17:29

    Donkey: Where in that free state did you go?

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    • Donkey
      Donkey 29 April, 2014, 07:10

      John, we stayed on Lake Travis at the town of Lago Vista to visit our Son in Roundrock, Hung out in Fredricksburg for a few days to visit the Admiral Nimitz Museum (happens to be one of the best museums I have ever visited, I spent two days going through the exhibits, could have spent three) and climbed to the top of the Enchanted Rock. Went to San Antonio, for a couple of days, saw the Alamo(which by the way has no basement), did the river walk, weather was perfect. Spent a day in Austin. On the way to Northern New Mexico we stopped in Keller, Fort Worth, and Dallas, visited with my Niece and her family, saw where Kennedy was murdered, had what was titled “real Texas barbeque,” loved it.

      Texas is booming from what I observed, and the people were on the go, lively.

      My Son took us to a movie theater to see Capitan America, a very good film, which served dinner while you watched the movie, it was fun and a great deal too.

      Texas was a wonderful state, but so was New Mexico, Arizona, and Utah. We hiked the “primitive trail” at Arches National Park, five hours of the most wonderful views of nature I have ever seen.

      Have a great day John!! 🙂

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      • Ted O'Steele, CEO
        Ted O'Steele, CEO 29 April, 2014, 10:06

        Mmmmmmmmmmmm nice— just two freedom loving bunker buddies ™ sharing Texas stories—–niiiiiiiiiiice…..

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        • Donkey
          Donkey 29 April, 2014, 13:25

          What’s wrong with “freedom” TCS? It seems […he…] doesn’t like freedom in any form unless it is the freedom to tax the private sector. 🙂

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  6. NorCal Libertarian
    NorCal Libertarian 28 April, 2014, 18:29

    While I feel badly for the residents AND LOCAL BUSINESSES of Torrance who will suffer from this move, look at your (and your surrounding district assembly and state senate members) and research to see how many taxes they imposed on this company through regulations (like CARB for one).
    Mayor Scotto states “We don’t have the tools we need to keep major corporations here”.
    Yes you do Mayor Scotto, but those tools are in the hands your citizens every 2 or 4 years when (or IF) they vote. That tool is the pen to mark the ballots favoring BUSINESS FRIENDLY candidates.
    If Torrance is a member of Agenda 21’s ICLEI, then that’s part of the problem as well.

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  7. S Moderation Douglas
    S Moderation Douglas 28 April, 2014, 19:43

    And we’re paying them to move. California gets back about 94 cents for every dollar we send the federal government. Texas gets back $1.43.

    In fact there seems to be an inverse relationship with a lot of the “low tax” states and the higher federal expenditures in those states.

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  8. Leotis Ahmad Jones
    Leotis Ahmad Jones 28 April, 2014, 20:01

    S&M Douglas, Should make you feel good. Toyota will be paying less tax from Cal., so the numbers come into line. Need an Oracle,Facebook,Apple to leave as well to even out the take. Time to increase the payout for pubic employees in the Golden state. We needs more pensions for pubic safety. Hooray for the pubic sector.

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  9. S Moderation Douglas
    S Moderation Douglas 28 April, 2014, 20:51

    ” California has the highest poverty rate in the country, under the U.S. Census Bureau’s Supplemental Poverty Measure, which takes into consideration cost of living.”

    CalWatchdog April 16, 2014
    …………………………
    ” when you take into consideration the state’s higher cost of living and compare public employee pay to the state’s overall personal income, California’s rank is below average at #35.”

    can.allgov.com Oct 4, 2012

    A bargain!

    The glass is at least half full!!

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    • Donkey
      Donkey 29 April, 2014, 07:17

      What the frick are you on SMD? The very reason the cost of living is so high in California is because of public employees pay, benefits, and pensions. And the reason the poverty rate is so high is that the private sector workers are robbed of their labor every payday by the RAGWUS feeders. You RAGWUS feeders live in an alternate universe. 🙂

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      • S Moderation Douglas
        S Moderation Douglas 29 April, 2014, 11:05

        “What the frick….yadda, yadda, yadda”

        is:

        A. Circular reasoning

        B. Observation bias

        C. RURG

        D. All the above

        Answer: D. All the above

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        • Donkey
          Donkey 29 April, 2014, 12:59

          The first step to addressing your RAGWUS problem is to admit you have one SMD. But you seem to be a full scale RAGWUS junkie, logic and reason is foreign to you, as what the RAGWUS is doing is very clear!! 🙂

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          • S Moderation Douglas
            S Moderation Douglas 29 April, 2014, 20:43

            Whut is a wurgas?

          • Ted O'Steele, CEO
            Ted O'Steele, CEO 29 April, 2014, 21:47

            It is not a RURG– I know this for sure— but a WURGAS? I think it’s one of Duncey’s things that stands for something no one knows about but him and his invisible rabbit.

          • Donkey
            Donkey 1 May, 2014, 02:00

            Google it my dimwitted RAGWUS feeders. A clue, it is a term that correctly illustrates the crooked Quid Pro Quo scheme used by public workers to fleece the taxpayers of their labor, and is destroying the state. 🙂

          • S Moderation Douglas
            S Moderation Douglas 2 May, 2014, 10:33

            Ell Oh Ell

            Google: “Did you mean: ragus?”

            Ragus Grimlow
            “Gorged Undead Brother”

          • Donkey
            Donkey 2 May, 2014, 15:44

            “Dimwitted,” poor SMD….. 🙂

  10. Queeg
    Queeg 29 April, 2014, 00:02

    Wow.

    Lives one speechless what globalists can do to a local economy.

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    • Donkey
      Donkey 29 April, 2014, 07:19

      It is the RAGWUS that is eating California alive, the globalists are leaving the Borax state for places they can keep their profits. 🙂

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  11. Bill Gore
    Bill Gore 29 April, 2014, 09:11

    Yup-another ‘doomer’ Fortune 500 major employer is gettiing the hell out of Taxifornia. Fools! Don’t they know they won’t see any palm trees in Texas? And the surf on the Gulf is nothing like in the Golden State….And Texas doesn’t have that freezing cold marine layer to chill their bones as they march into their cubicles in the morning….

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    • Ted O'Steele, CEO
      Ted O'Steele, CEO 29 April, 2014, 10:08

      course you’d have to live in racist, homophobic, science denying, hellishly hot, moron infested Texas……noit too good. I’ll stay here especially with the south swell season about to start.

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      • Donkey
        Donkey 3 May, 2014, 07:22

        Sounds as if you are projecting your attendance at the local LE union meeting TCS. 🙂

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      • LJ in Texas
        LJ in Texas 29 May, 2014, 11:39

        We prefer to call the non-breeders Hetrophibic……….

        Dont like it. Stay away. Enjoy Mr. Moonbeam.

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  12. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 29 April, 2014, 11:38

    Yes, everyone who moves to Texas deserves what they are going to get. I do feel sorry for the poor Californians who will have to transfer with the company though–my sympathies are with you.

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  13. billyBS
    billyBS 29 April, 2014, 12:33

    “Yes, everyone who moves to Texas deserves what they are going to get.”
    “course you’d have to live in racist, homophobic, science denying, hellishly hot, moron infested Texas……”
    Sure sounds like open minded intellectuals are left behind. Speaking of behinds, you both may want to take your heads out of there to get some fresh air. Yes, your &%#@ really does stink.

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    • Ted O'Steele, CEO
      Ted O'Steele, CEO 29 April, 2014, 13:10

      LOL—- Ever spent any time in Texas or for that matter in any thick part of Klan country? Remember the Gov’s “Niggerhead Ranch”???

      LOL Keep on defending it little buddy!

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    • Donkey
      Donkey 29 April, 2014, 13:11

      LOL, I can smell your point of view Billy, but TCS really doesn’t mind either way. 🙂

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      • Ted O'Steele, CEO
        Ted O'Steele, CEO 29 April, 2014, 21:45

        Billy— there is no telling exactly what Duncey is “smelling”– be careful.

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        • Donkey
          Donkey 29 April, 2014, 22:09

          TCS, what I am smelling is a RAGWUS feeding rat, and that would be you!! 🙂

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          • Ted O'Steele, CEO
            Ted O'Steele, CEO 29 April, 2014, 22:36

            As I understand it Duncey you have lost the use of all of your other senses and now survive using only your sense of smell.

            You seem to sniff alot of things out here– I think you’ll be ok.

          • S Moderation Douglas
            S Moderation Douglas 30 April, 2014, 09:14

            Donkey is the pinball wizard?

          • Donkey
            Donkey 1 May, 2014, 02:01

            SMD is a catcher. 🙂

  14. Dork
    Dork 29 April, 2014, 15:38

    Frank Scotto, Torrance’s mayor, said he had no warning of Toyota’s decision. –

    Kinda like the Battered Woman that finally scurries away in the darkness, never to be heard from again.

    Like she would tell her abuser her plans to leave,LOL

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  15. Richard Rider
    Richard Rider 29 April, 2014, 15:55

    Any Californian who says “I can’t find a good job (or ANY job)” is thinking small. They need to broaden their job search. There ARE good job openings in the right fields, and/or in the right states. And not just in the oil fracking industry/states. Here’s the latest rankings of unemployment by state:
    http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm

    The best state is North Dakota, a big fracking operation (with ancillary employment needs) with an astoundingly low 2.6% unemployment rate. But most of the rest of the top ten states are NOT fracking states. The 10th state has an unemployment rate of 4.5% — a bit over half of the California unemployment rate (8.1% — fourth highest in the nation).

    One surprising state — Texas. Apparently so many people are moving to Texas looking for work that the state ranks 17th, with an unemployment rate of 5.5%. While that’s a far better rate than California and there are many advantages gained from living in Texas, obviously there are other states that definitely deserve serious consideration.

    Sadly, our federal and California welfare payments (so MANY different programs!) cause people to be reluctant to move — trying to weather the economic storm — hoping that “some day their job will come.” We PAY people not to work — and to not MOVE to where the work is.
    Unemployment Rates for States
    http://www.bls.gov

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  16. Richard Rider
    Richard Rider 29 April, 2014, 15:55

    Any Californian who says “I can’t find a good job (or ANY job)” is thinking small. They need to broaden their job search. There ARE good job openings in the right fields, and/or in the right states. And not just in the oil fracking industry/states. Here’s the latest rankings of unemployment by state:
    http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm

    The best state is North Dakota, a big fracking operation (with ancillary employment needs) with an astoundingly low 2.6% unemployment rate. But most of the rest of the top ten states are NOT fracking states. The 10th state has an unemployment rate of 4.5% — a bit over half of the California unemployment rate (8.1% — fourth highest in the nation).

    One surprising state — Texas. Apparently so many people are moving to Texas looking for work that the state ranks 17th, with an unemployment rate of 5.5%. While that’s a far better rate than California and there are many advantages gained from living in Texas, obviously there are other states that definitely deserve serious consideration.

    Sadly, our federal and California welfare payments (so MANY different programs!) cause people to be reluctant to move — trying to weather the economic storm — hoping that “some day their job will come.” We PAY people not to work — and to not MOVE to where the work is.
    Unemployment Rates for States
    w.bls.gov

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  17. Ulysses Uhaul
    Ulysses Uhaul 29 April, 2014, 22:38

    Business is picking up…..were out of grande boxes and local temporary storage…..

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  18. S Moderation Douglas
    S Moderation Douglas 30 April, 2014, 09:43

    ” Given that there are three unemployed Americans for every job opening, I think its fair to say the poor aren’t necessarily avoiding work out of laziness. But I get it. The poor are an easy target and it’s easy for the haves to always say what’s best for the have nots.”

    James E. Causey 

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