Selfish vote won over philosophical vote, again

Nov. 9, 2012

Katy Grimes: After every election one party has to retreat and lick its wounds while the other party revels in the mandate.  But elections are changing. Voters are changing. America is changing, and California is leading that change.

In this election, the Democratic Party asked its voters to vote identity politics. Students, women, blacks, Hispanics, gays, illegal immigrants, retired pensioners, union members, pro-choice, entitlement reliant, and green energy supporters voted overwhelmingly because of their identity issues.

The Republican Party asked its voters to vote because they are American citizens who supposedly support limited government, personal responsibility. And Republicans  lost.

10 million fewer Democrats voted for President Obama than did in the 2008 elections, and 3 million fewer Republicans voted for Mitt Romney than voted for John McCain in 2008. Given these numbers, Republicans shot themselves in the foot. They couldn’t even turn out the voters, which is the most basic rule in elections.

Since the Great Depression, politicians have chipped away at limited government, and personal responsibility. Have we finally reached the point where the 47 percent who receive some type of government entitlement or benefit voted to maintain these?

The federal government is printing money every day. At some point, everyone will stop buying America’s debt. California is nearly there.

As California reaches the point where the state cannot pay its bills, state vendors will be the first to be cut off. Small businesses tied to state government will be hit and will close.

On Wednesday the stock market tanked. McDonald’s even reported a drop in sales for the first time in years.

Some of the politicians know and understand this. Most don’t seem to care. Politics is too big of a business now, and too many people are making money off of campaigns, government and connections to special interests.

It will take a crisis of untold proportions before anything changes.

“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.” – Thomas Jefferson

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  1. David in Irvine
    David in Irvine 9 November, 2012, 07:53

    “On Wednesday the stock market tanked.” Naturally, the headline in Thursday’s LA Times story on the market blamed the market’s drop on the coming fiscal crisis for the US government, and didn’t even suggest that investors were reacting to the results of the election!

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  2. Queeg
    Queeg 9 November, 2012, 08:09

    Simple…too too many needy and fewer fewer greedy!

    I think carb fees will create inflation in California and far less job opportunities, for companies will go for operating productivity, cut labor, raise prices, close marginal operations, locations, businesses.

    You will have less choices on goods and services and pricing power shifts to the “remaining” businesses.

    If you love unemployment checks you’ll see lots more of them!

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  3. Barb
    Barb 9 November, 2012, 08:09

    Good common sense! Right on Ms.Grimes! It is starting! Companies laying off in the last 48 hours is almost dumb-founding but will go unreported. I don’t pay attention to the dumb stories coming out of any network anymore. It’s all a fairytale!

    Rome is burning! But hey, the Obama supporters will still have their free birth control!

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  4. Douglas
    Douglas 9 November, 2012, 08:34

    “Have we finally reached the point where the 47 percent who receive some type of government entitlement or benefit voted to maintain these?”

    Easy answer: NO

    According to the Census Bureau, 49% of Americans in the second quarter of 2011 lived in a household where at least one member received a government benefit. (The total population at the time was 305 million).

    Medicaid……..26.4%
    Social Security.16.2%
    Food stamps…..15.8%
    Medicare……..14.9%
    Rent assistance.4.5%
    unemployment …1.7%

    Obviously there is overlap. Many households on Social Security are also on Medicare. Many on Medicaid also receive food stamps, etc.

    Also: PAINFULLY OBVIOUS, There is NO clear partisan split among beneficiaries. Many of these entitlement recipients voted for Romney. Those on food stamps or rental assistance historically are much more likely to not vote at all. And many real, honest to God, hardworking taxpayers actually voted for President Obama ( and prop 30)

    In a press conference after the fact, of his 47% video, Mr. Romney said his comments were “not elegantly stated”

    In other words, wrong.

    You can’t fix stupid, but apparently you can double down on dumb.

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  5. CalWatchdog
    CalWatchdog Author 9 November, 2012, 11:15

    No Douglas, it’s not as simple as you would make it. I was careful to say government entitlements and benefits. My own family is made up of people who work for government, and my parents are retired teachers. Of course there is no partisan split among beneficiieries, but many of these same people voted for Romney and Yes on Prop 30 an No on Prop 32. That is what happens when too many people receive some form of government benefit.

    Katy

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  6. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 9 November, 2012, 11:50

    I would rather see free birth control, than unwanted children that we are going to be paying for anyway, Barb–and it would be cheaper in the long run. I am a Democrat and worked all my life. Not wanting to work is not in the Democrat’s platform. The selfish are those willing to let the billionaires like the Mungers and the Koch Bros. buy them into office. I deplore it on both sides!

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  7. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 9 November, 2012, 12:08

    We are all recipients of the government–you might be alive today, only because of some safety precaution the government adopted along the way–you just don’t know it.

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  8. Rex the Wonder Dog!
    Rex the Wonder Dog! 9 November, 2012, 12:12

    The selfish are those willing to let the billionaires like the Mungers and the Koch Bros.
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    LOL..funny seesaw left out the BIGEST selfish leeches, the public unions, like the biggest $$$ in CA politicas = CTA. How did you leave THEM out seesaw?? Oh, you’re spinning again, my bad 😉

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  9. SeeSaw
    SeeSaw 9 November, 2012, 12:38

    The public unions are made up of individual middle class voters, Rex. They can’t just reach into their pockets and pull out a few million at a time–they have to work for it. There is a difference between unions and corporations–that is why Prop. 32 was evil–and evil lost.

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  10. skippingdog
    skippingdog 9 November, 2012, 13:06

    Sour grapes and more sweet wingnut tears.

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  11. Bob
    Bob 9 November, 2012, 14:47

    It’s all very simple.

    Politicians get elected by promising to give other people’s money and freedoms away to those who vote them into office.

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  12. NTHEOC
    NTHEOC 9 November, 2012, 19:03

    Katy grimes says,
    My own family is made up of people who work for government, and my parents are retired teachers.
    =========================
    They must really be proud of you!!

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  13. NTHEOC
    NTHEOC 9 November, 2012, 19:04

    Bob says:
    It’s all very simple.
    Politicians get elected by promising to give other people’s money and freedoms away to those who vote them into office.
    ================
    It is what it is bob. That is why the people could see right through prop32 and destroyed it!!!!

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  14. NTHEOC
    NTHEOC 9 November, 2012, 19:07

    barb says,
    Companies laying off in the last 48 hours is almost dumb-founding but will go unreported.
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    I hope they report at the same time the corporate CEO pay raise that came from the money saved of the layoffs!! profit before people,it’s the private sector pig corp way!!

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  15. NTHEOC
    NTHEOC 9 November, 2012, 19:11

    Barb says,
    the Obama supporters will still have their free birth control!
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    Hahahaah, yes barb,But when all these unwanted babies are born the republicans don’t support feeding,educating,or housing them!!

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  16. NTHEOC
    NTHEOC 10 November, 2012, 08:02

    ST. LOUIS (AP) – A coal producer owned by a longtime critic of President Barack Obama’s energy policies will lay off nearly 160 workers at Illinois and Utah mines, blaming the freshly re-elected president
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    Just another CEO corporate pig really no differen’t than the CWD’s boy mitt romney!!!!!
    A criminal investigation of the Ohio-based Murray Energy, after the coal company allegedly told employees to donate to Republican politicians including Mitt Romney.The alleged coercion of political donations from employees may have “involved extortion, money laundering, racketeering, and other violations of Title 18 of the US criminal code,” Last Thursday, The New Republic’s Alec MacGillis reported that Murray Energy CEO Bob Murray pressured his employees to donate to Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, among others, as well as to Murray Energy’s pro-Republican political action committee. Some of the firm’s 3,000 employees reportedly feared they might lose their jobs if they did not make these political donations.

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